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Aperture Lab Rat 10-03-2009 07:49 PM

"New-Timers"?
 
Whats with all of the hatred towards O-T? From what I understand, the only thing they do to anger people is by having the language filter for those who are mature enough to want to play a game in a family-friendly environment. What's with the new community of children? You have to /try/ to get banned from OT, with the way the warning system is set up.

DFA1979 10-04-2009 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aperture Lab Rat (Post 453236)
Whats with all of the hatred towards O-T? From what I understand, the only thing they do to anger people is by having the language filter for those who are mature enough to want to play a game in a family-friendly environment. What's with the new community of children? You have to /try/ to get banned from OT, with the way the warning system is set up.

See, heres the thing:

Pixel 10-04-2009 05:26 AM

I got banned pretty easy without trying.

Dark h4xx0r 10-04-2009 06:06 AM

Aww..If you doesn't like this new community, then don't play on servers.

reaper18 10-04-2009 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark h4xx0r (Post 453285)
Aww..If you doesn't like this new community, then don't play on servers.

wow. fail.

Dark h4xx0r 10-04-2009 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reaper18 (Post 453289)
wow. fail.

Yeah, i said it wrong :|

Hirohito 10-04-2009 08:15 AM

Getting banned on O-T is like a rite of passage in the FF commuinty. :D

[AE] 82694 10-04-2009 11:49 AM

This thread will go nowhere.

Scuzzy 10-04-2009 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pixel (Post 453277)
I got banned pretty easy without trying.

Don't tease them pixel, you know you're not banned. :)

Rat, there actually aren't that many people banned. Only a very small percentage, a little over 2% of our entire playerbase is banned. There are some fairly vocal little kids around here though that don't like the fact that they've been banned and try to spread disinformation about our clan and policies. Ignore them. We do.

Copying is the sincerest form of flattery. They only draw attention and interest to our server. The people that enter it and don't care for the "nigger this nigger that" attitude will seek us out knowing we're the alternative. :) There've been plenty of servers out there that have copied our name, they aren't the first and they won't be the last. :) It's the Rap3d clan's money to waste. They don't care for our rules, and have some grudge in their mind against us apparently, if they really want to spend the cash to do that, more power to them.

gibz 10-04-2009 03:09 PM

I got banned. When it happened I was just like, wtf was that?

Dr.Satan 10-04-2009 03:29 PM

moved to the appropriate forum. Also, just a general warning, keep it clean in here or I'll hand out infractions.

DudeWheresMyMedic 10-04-2009 03:56 PM

The New Timers server has nothing to do with Rap3d or Talos, This is just my own thing. And like I said on the Steam group page, "Never said anything about hatred towards o-t, it only a group for people that been ban or wants to join. I understand why o-t does what they do, they pay for server they make the rules." I mean this is nothing against Old Timers just a fun group, but how small FF community is I don't think the server will last that long anyway with: o-t,:eO.Talos on the America front and zE Palace controling the EU, don't have much to worry about. Its only a fun server, I made it New Timers hoping I can get people to play in it. But now knowing only 2% is banned I may leave my server to rot and go back to Talos server.

Scuzzy 10-04-2009 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gibz (Post 453313)
I got banned. When it happened I was just like, wtf was that?

Wow, really? You had no idea. I'm kinda stunned. Let's look into that together and see how that happened, maybe we can fix what went wrong. Here's the chat log for last December, when you're original ban occurred:

Code:

'2008-12-22 21:20:08', 'STEAM_0:0:10987754', ':e0:L@dyDe@th', 'rtv'
'2008-12-22 21:20:12', 'STEAM_0:1:819013', '-=Surge=-', 'rtv'
'2008-12-22 21:20:12', 'STEAM_0:0:20598354', 'Afterburner', 'rtv'
'2008-12-22 21:20:16', 'STEAM_0:0:946622', 'YEAHS', 'ROCK@'
'2008-12-22 21:20:38', 'STEAM_0:1:18522739', 'g00se', ':)'
'2008-12-22 21:20:43', 'STEAM_0:1:14186193', 'Ã*¹–ۣۜKoreyۣۜÃ*¹–', ':)'
'2008-12-22 21:22:33', 'STEAM_0:0:10987754', ':e0:L@dyDe@th', 'hey reaper'
'2008-12-22 21:22:48', 'STEAM_0:1:18522739', 'g00se', 'lag'
'2008-12-22 21:23:27', 'STEAM_0:1:819013', '-=Surge=-', 'head shot'
'2008-12-22 21:23:43', 'STEAM_0:0:3862340', '{NFO}ReaPer.', '^2 <3'
'2008-12-22 21:24:53', 'STEAM_0:1:18522739', 'g00se', 'lost sound'
'2008-12-22 21:24:56', 'STEAM_0:1:18522739', 'g00se', 'brb'

'2008-12-22 21:25:03', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'press ur speakers to turn on'
'2008-12-22 21:25:06', 'STEAM_0:1:11529279', 'Coldfire', 'fail raven'
'2008-12-22 21:25:26', 'STEAM_0:1:11529279', 'Coldfire', 'fail again raven'

'2008-12-22 21:25:38', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'no fucking cussing'
'2008-12-22 21:25:39', 'Console', ' Console', 'ot_szsay: Gibz was slayed for language.  Continued issues can result in a short or perm ban.  See the Motd for more information.'

At this point you were slayed (warning #1), you received the above
text alert (warning #2) from the system, and this sound
was played (warning #3):
Please keep the language and content
clean, continued language issues can result
in a temporary or even permanent ban.


'2008-12-22 21:25:50', 'STEAM_0:0:946622', 'YEAHS', 'watch the language, there are old people present'
'2008-12-22 21:25:50', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', ':('
'2008-12-22 21:25:55', 'STEAM_0:1:11529279', 'Coldfire', 'fauk eno raven'
'2008-12-22 21:25:59', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'and u didnt'


In the comment above, you complain that the
individual didn't get slayed for using a variation of "fuck", indicating
that you may have some clue as to that a language policy exists.


'2008-12-22 21:25:59', 'STEAM_0:1:11529279', 'Coldfire', 'fail emp'
'2008-12-22 21:26:01', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', ':['
'2008-12-22 21:26:24', 'STEAM_0:0:946622', 'YEAHS', 'you guys need to respect your elders'
'2008-12-22 21:27:05', 'STEAM_0:1:11529279', 'Coldfire', 'fail'

'2008-12-22 21:27:10', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'f'
'2008-12-22 21:27:13', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'u'
'2008-12-22 21:27:14', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'n'
'2008-12-22 21:27:25', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'this server is fun'

Below you try a few variations of "damn", to see
if they are part of the filter and if you can get slayed again.


'2008-12-22 21:27:41', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'dam'
'2008-12-22 21:27:43', 'STEAM_0:1:5255623', 'Kazen', 'man i hate "fail" -- its just the latest catch phrase thats driving me crazy'
[B]'2008-12-22 21:27:50', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'no i mean a damn'
'2008-12-22 21:27:50', 'STEAM_0:0:10987754', ':e0:L@dyDe@th', 'damn'
'2008-12-22 21:27:52', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'F'
'2008-12-22 21:27:54', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'i meant dam '
'2008-12-22 21:28:05', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'dammit'
'2008-12-22 21:29:01', 'STEAM_0:1:11529279', 'Coldfire', 'korey fails'
'2008-12-22 21:29:37', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'fuck'
'2008-12-22 21:29:38', 'Console', ' Console', 'ot_szsay: Gibz was slayed for language.  Continued issues can result in a short or perm ban.  See the Motd for more information.'

Now, above you would have been slayed but you
already dead (warning #4), you saw the text alert (warning #5), and
the sound was played again (warning #6)


'2008-12-22 21:29:39', 'STEAM_0:1:11529279', 'Coldfire', 'fail raven'
'2008-12-22 21:29:48', 'STEAM_0:1:11529279', 'Coldfire', 'lol dumb gibz'
'2008-12-22 21:29:54', 'STEAM_0:1:11529279', 'Coldfire', 'he got kicked'


Here you complain that you didn't get slayed because you were already dead:

'2008-12-22 21:29:54', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'i was already dead though'
'2008-12-22 21:30:25', 'STEAM_0:1:18997600', ':e0: stickyF!NGAZ', 'FUCK'
'2008-12-22 21:30:26', 'Console', ' Console', 'ot_szsay: :e0: stickyF!NGAZ was slayed for language.  Continued issues can result in a short or perm ban.  See the Motd for more information.'
'2008-12-22 21:30:32', 'STEAM_0:1:819013', '-=Surge=-', 'christmas!'
'2008-12-22 21:30:37', 'STEAM_0:0:946622', 'YEAHS', 'santa!'
'2008-12-22 21:30:39', 'STEAM_0:1:819013', '-=Surge=-', 'aw they got rid of that lol'
'2008-12-22 21:30:47', 'STEAM_0:1:819013', '-=Surge=-', 'you used to get slayed for that too'
'2008-12-22 21:30:56', 'STEAM_0:1:819013', '-=Surge=-', 'for saying christmas'


Here you try a few religious terms to see if you can get slayed by the system during your conversation about words that might get you slayed/banned/etc:

'2008-12-22 21:31:07', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'christmas'
'2008-12-22 21:31:22', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'haunakah'
'2008-12-22 21:31:24', 'STEAM_0:1:819013', '-=Surge=-', 'lol one time i got slayed for it but appearenly you dont any more'
'2008-12-22 21:31:26', 'STEAM_0:1:819013', '-=Surge=-', 'its not any more'

'2008-12-22 21:31:30', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'god is real'
'2008-12-22 21:31:31', 'STEAM_0:1:819013', '-=Surge=-', 'that was last night :O'
'2008-12-22 21:31:32', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'LOL'
'2008-12-22 21:31:33', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'oh'
'2008-12-22 21:31:36', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'wait i got shot'
'2008-12-22 21:31:57', 'STEAM_0:1:5255623', 'Kazen', 'go kev'
'2008-12-22 21:31:59', 'STEAM_0:1:5255623', 'Kazen', 'lol'

'2008-12-22 21:32:07', 'STEAM_0:0:17676088', 'Gibz', 'shit'
'2008-12-22 21:32:07', 'Console', ' Console', 'ot_szsay: Gibz was banned 30 minutes for Language. (ban occurance #1)'

Is this the point where you went, "WTF???"


'2008-12-22 21:32:29', 'STEAM_0:1:11529279', 'Coldfire', 'fail dillz'
'2008-12-22 21:32:34', 'STEAM_0:1:5255623', 'Kazen', 'go kev'

So, Gibz. You'd been in the server before this day, you'd been slayed in the past, so you knew the policy. You come into the server, get slayed, then begin a conversation about the filter and test a bunch of different terms to see if you can push the system. Then, in the process of doing that, you actually get banned for 30 minutes.

And you want the world to believe it was a "WTF was that" moment for you?

Somehow I think you're just another liar, who got banned intentionally, and didn't like the consequences of their actions. I have yet to find someone like you who intentionally publicly lies about our policies that hasn't been banned in some form of this senario.

Grow up, take your punishment like a man.

Scuzzy

Pixel 10-04-2009 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scuzzy (Post 453297)
Don't tease them pixel, you know you're not banned. :)

Maybe not on the FF server.

DudeWheresMyMedic 10-04-2009 11:53 PM

LoL wow gibz what a fail. I was ban sometime ago for saying "Nigger" before I knew how Old Timers ran the server, when I was new to FF.

Scuzzy 10-05-2009 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeWheresMyMedic (Post 453369)
LoL wow gibz what a fail. I was ban sometime ago for saying "Nigger" before I knew how Old Timers ran the server, when I was new to FF.

Why do you keep telling people that? You've never been banned for saying nigger. I've told you that several times.

DudeWheresMyMedic 10-05-2009 02:09 AM

You have?What was I banned for I'm perrty sure I was banned for that. But I don't know your admin for it you know more then me.

Also I thank :e0: clan for supporting the server, I think 40% of the players on the server have been :e0:.

DudeWheresMyMedic 10-05-2009 02:11 AM

Also the 2% of ban players, is that for all Old Timer servers from other games or just FF?

DudeWheresMyMedic 10-05-2009 02:24 AM

Everyone from New Timers ban from Old Timers.

http://forums.oldtimersclan.com/ot_banlog.php

Just for being in a group. LoL wow I see why, Group title "Group for the ban players of o-t.
This is a group for every one that has been banned from the Old Timers. We Want More People, I Don't Care What Games They Play, Just Invite."

damn all those people didn't know they will be banned for joining a group. Also those peoplle as admin are the ones who helped me make the server, No need to ban them just me for everything, they never knew where this was going.

Pixel 10-05-2009 02:57 AM

So wait, OT is banning people just because they are in "new timers" group? Thats fucked up.


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