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Circuitous 01-14-2009 01:37 AM

Some sort of official Windows 7 thread
 
If you're using it, how do you like it?

If you're not using it, and have some sort of reason other than because you don't care or don't want to, what is it?

So far, it's pretty okay. 'Course, I skipped Vista, so I'm sure most of this stuff just ain't that special.

New nVidia drivers available through Windows Update is slick.

Innoc 01-14-2009 02:05 AM

At Home...not using it as I really have not had time and I don't have a knockdown box available right now on which I would/can test. I have used Vista for about a year with few problems other than Steam. Window 7 will probably be something I wait a month or so after it goes on sale before I get it.

At Work...I've just now started testing on Server 2008. The only Vista box in the building is a development box in my office and that did not exist prior to my joining the company in November. I don't believe that Vista will ever see light of day in a production build however Windows 7 might...but it's going to be a while before that happens.

Anshinritsumai 01-14-2009 04:30 AM

Been using Win7 for a few days now and I've seen better performance and reliability with it over Vista, even on this shitty computer.

The amount of times a program (or even Explorer for that matter) stops responding, has been zero; where as in Vista the amount of non-responding programs has been tremendous for me. I'm not sure entirely how well it's been running compared to XP, but I would say that it's slightly more reliable performance wise than XP.

This computer, under Vista, made Starcraft lag, mind you that was a drop down to only 10fps. When running on Win7, it went back up to a steady 30+ at all times like it should on any system.

I'm considering upgrading my Vista drive (C:\) to Win7 until Win7 goes retail...

Credge 01-14-2009 04:35 AM

Could someone tell me what kind of apps Windows 7 is able to run so far? I mean, anything that Vista and XP can run it will? I'm not talking about games, I'm more interested in things like Tversity and Protools. Things like that.

Anshinritsumai 01-14-2009 06:05 AM

If it's Vista compatible, it'll run... and if it doesn't run all you have to do is right-click the .exe, go to the compatibility tab, and choose the option to run the program in compatibility mode for Vista. If it's XP compatible but not Vista, just do the same and set it to compatibility for XP.

And if that doesn't work, then your shit out of luck until whoever made whatever it is your trying to run, puts out an update or new version.

Credge 01-14-2009 06:18 AM

Glad to hear the beta already has compatibility mode.

Circuitous 01-14-2009 09:14 AM

WMP10 can play .flv files stock, apparently. Hurray, all my saved porn works!

Why does the Windows Experience Index rate from 1.0 to 7.9? That seems bizarre.

Credge 01-14-2009 11:37 AM

To make the averages look better when they switch to a factor of 10?

KubeDawg 01-14-2009 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Circuitous (Post 420313)
WMP10 can play .flv files stock, apparently. Hurray, all my saved porn works!

:O NICE

I attempted to download it, but it wouldn't take for some reason. I've got the key and everything, but I click 'download' and it does nothing. Guess I'll get it as a torrent.

Hawk Eye 01-14-2009 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Circuitous (Post 420313)
WMP10 can play .flv files stock, apparently. Hurray, all my saved porn works!

Why does the Windows Experience Index rate from 1.0 to 7.9? That seems bizarre.

Well if it went to 8, then it wouldn't be Windows 7, would it?

Circuitous 01-14-2009 07:13 PM

Apparently when initial testing started, it was 1.0 to 5.0. The idea is that standards remain the same, but the ceiling increases - so a 3.0 now will forever be a 3.0.

Speaking of which, my computer is a 3.0. The lowest score being my hard drive. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by KubeDawg (Post 420355)
:O NICE

I attempted to download it, but it wouldn't take for some reason. I've got the key and everything, but I click 'download' and it does nothing. Guess I'll get it as a torrent.

Running Firefox? It downloads via an ActiveX control. Download via IE, or (if you have the appropriate plugin) use an IE Tab in Firefox.

KubeDawg 01-14-2009 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Circuitous (Post 420361)
Apparently when initial testing started, it was 1.0 to 5.0. The idea is that standards remain the same, but the ceiling increases - so a 3.0 now will forever be a 3.0.

Speaking of which, my computer is a 3.0. The lowest score being my hard drive. :(



Running Firefox? It downloads via an ActiveX control. Download via IE, or (if you have the appropriate plugin) use an IE Tab in Firefox.

ahh that was it. ty

Damascus 01-14-2009 11:27 PM

According to benchmarks, Windows 7 is faster or about the same as XP.

HOWEVER:

According to the EULA of Windows 7, it states that benchmarks should not be done.

:confused:

Anshinritsumai 01-15-2009 01:00 AM

Apparently they don't want people to judge 'em too soon this time around.

Pixel 01-15-2009 01:16 AM

Don't like the gui :(

besides that its pretty nice

Paft 01-15-2009 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pixel (Post 420425)
Don't like the gui :(

besides that its pretty nice

I'm not liking "Aero v2" either. Bored of it now. Too much shine. I could as far to say it's so good looking it's ugly. My eyes can't rest on something because I can see in the corner of my eye several sexy bitches winking at me. Needs toning down Linux style.

DarkeN_HellspawN 01-15-2009 01:54 AM

Vista in a corporate environmet.......
 
We have 6000 total employees worldwide and not one Vista client out of the 5000 client desktops we have total. Corporate initiative is to skip Vista all together and go to the next version. We are even a Microsoft Platinum partner and the local MS reps onsite wanted us to wait for the next OS as well. MS knows that Vista is dead in the water but they are going to still and try to hack it to anyone who will but it. Plus Dell charges a $150.00 additional fee to downgrade to XP if it is even possible due to driver compatibility.

dh

Damascus 01-15-2009 03:36 AM

It plays Left 4 Dead smoother than my XP. I'm sold.


It's only a beta, too D:

Circuitous 01-16-2009 02:36 AM

Fallout 3 runs like hell. I'm enjoying it so far. Need to get Steam setup, though!

Aero v2 is fine but I'm having issues with the bars being transparent despite my windows not being so. IT'S AWKWARD. Need to just block them out.

Phatman 01-16-2009 05:20 AM

Had it running for a few days on a Dell 2.66ghz with 512 ram rather decently. However, because of the low amount of ram at the time, I couldn't really do anything. Now the dell is my main desktop so I might put the gateway my mom has and was loaning me up with 7 for a bit, but then again, school started up again so I really don't have time or a reason to mess with it. *shrug* However, thus far I like what I see. The taskbar took some time getting used to, but I like how it works

Circuitous 01-16-2009 08:48 PM

I can run L4D at higher settings with the same performance. Excellent.

Owoc 01-17-2009 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Circuitous (Post 420265)
New nVidia drivers available through Windows Update is slick.

Doesn't it install them on top of each other i.e. don't you end up with a bit of a mess that way?

Pixel 01-17-2009 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Circuitous (Post 420361)
Speaking of which, my computer is a 3.0. The lowest score being my hard drive. :(

Yeah my hard drive is 2.9. Its an old (IDE) hard drive, but 2.9?

http://i42.tinypic.com/28tc379.png

Anshinritsumai 01-17-2009 08:19 PM

My ratings in Win7 have gone up compared to that of Vista...


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98...erformance.jpg

Pixel 01-17-2009 08:54 PM

win7 boots about 10 secs faster than me

Innoc 01-17-2009 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pixel (Post 420876)
win7 boots about 10 secs faster than me

What kind of system are you that makes you boot slower?

Pixel 01-17-2009 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innoc (Post 420892)
What kind of system are you that makes you boot slower?

That didnt come out right. Windows 7 boots about 10 seconds faster than xp does for me.

Circuitous 01-19-2009 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Owoc (Post 420820)
Doesn't it install them on top of each other i.e. don't you end up with a bit of a mess that way?

There's only been one driver as far as I know, so I genuinely have no idea. I'll know for sure when they update.

I would hope they'd be smarter than that, but who knows?

Anyway... I haven't booted XP since I installed the beta, and I've only restarted twice (both times for Windows Update). I've got ePSXe running now, doing fine. Just been fiddling about, really.

I did have some general slowdown a couple days ago, after downloading like 15 PSX ROMs haha, unpacking and moving them around all at the same time. That, in itself, wasn't really surprising, but it did seem to take a little while longer to recover than I would've liked.

Credge 01-19-2009 01:31 AM

Possibility of this OS replacing XP?

Circuitous 01-19-2009 01:31 AM

For me? Pretty high.

I'd need a pretty catastrophic failure to make me keep XP at this point.

Circuitous 01-19-2009 03:56 AM

Biggest Issue thus far: CS3 hates Windows 7 and crashes when the installation program starts. No Photoshop. :(

Damascus 01-19-2009 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Circuitous (Post 421147)
Biggest Issue thus far: CS3 hates Windows 7 and crashes when the installation program starts. No Photoshop. :(

GIMP.

:-P

Pixel 01-19-2009 05:32 AM

GIMP is crap. :)

Circuitous 01-19-2009 05:55 AM

Agreed, although I do have it now.

God I hate using it, though. I'm using Paint instead, for the time being.

Anshinritsumai 01-19-2009 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Circuitous (Post 421147)
Biggest Issue thus far: CS3 hates Windows 7 and crashes when the installation program starts. No Photoshop. :(

If you have Photoshop installed on another drive or OS partition, then just run it from there. If theres any problems running it, then run the installation and attempt to install it again on your win7 partition / drive. The installation will fail, but it will install the shared components required to run photshop and then you can run it from the other drive.

Thats how I've got it set up at the moment.

SizeableSSonic 01-19-2009 06:21 PM

I still can't find a key for the 64 bit version...

Circuitous 01-20-2009 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anshinritsumai (Post 421194)
If you have Photoshop installed on another drive or OS partition, then just run it from there. If theres any problems running it, then run the installation and attempt to install it again on your win7 partition / drive. The installation will fail, but it will install the shared components required to run photshop and then you can run it from the other drive.

Thats how I've got it set up at the moment.

The installation crashes immediately. It doesn't install anything.

Anshinritsumai 01-20-2009 02:38 AM

Should I assume you've attempted to run the installation in compatibility mode for XP SP2 and/or Vista?

Well... to beat a dead horse with a stick, try it if you haven't.

If that doesn't work, I dunno how to fix that. Sorry =/

Circuitous 01-20-2009 02:40 AM

COMPATIBILITY MODE AAAAGH.

I'll try it, thanks.

Edit: still insta-crashes.

Running Photoshop from another disk politely informs me that licensing has "stopped working." Registry, probably.

Edit Edit: Running Photoshop from another disk as administrator worked fine. :| Ridiculous, I say.

Anshinritsumai 01-20-2009 02:47 AM

o.0 Holy ninja edits Batman...

Well thats pretty interesting that you were able to get it to work as an administrator...


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