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greenday5494 12-21-2008 11:05 PM

so, stalker: Shadow was for 5 bucks on steam, i picked it up
 
but i REALLY do not like the healing/inv system. it pisses me off i need to go into my inv, heal, exit, THEN kill the baddies. IF i get hurt in combat, run back to somewhere, fiddle with stupid menus, hope they dont come over and kill me, heal, and do the same thing over again. Is there a way to like bind healing to a key or something?

Everything 12-21-2008 11:19 PM

I'm really thinking of getting this for $5, but I'm not sure yet, is there bots for mp?

Also on topic, I dunno about binds.

Hirohito 12-21-2008 11:36 PM

There's a Medkit and Bandage bind in the controls menu. Its a major help.

eternity94 12-21-2008 11:41 PM

I just got the game too.

I don't know why, everyone else says they love it, but the game just pisses me off.

The environment is bland, the gun play only works if you get close, but if you do that you usually die so easily, i love a challenge, but this is just annoying. The quests are very run of the mill in which it is; Go here, kill this type of thing. So far there has only been the generic person after generic person all with the same voice acting.

I don't know if it gets better, does anyone know?

Hirohito 12-22-2008 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by eternity94
I just got the game too.

I don't know why, everyone else says they love it, but the game just pisses me off.

The environment is bland, the gun play only works if you get close, but if you do that you usually die so easily, i love a challenge, but this is just annoying. The quests are very run of the mill in which it is; Go here, kill this type of thing. So far there has only been the generic person after generic person all with the same voice acting.

I don't know if it gets better, does anyone know?

Rush through the main game, then download Oblivion Lost 2.2 and play it. You actaully have to survive instead of being invincible because you have a ton of bandages and orange Medkits.

Circuitous 12-22-2008 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by greenday5494
but i REALLY do not like the healing/inv system. it pisses me off i need to go into my inv, heal, exit, THEN kill the baddies. IF i get hurt in combat, run back to somewhere, fiddle with stupid menus, hope they dont come over and kill me, heal, and do the same thing over again. Is there a way to like bind healing to a key or something?

As Hirohito said, there are binds for medpak and bandage so you can heal without hitting up the inventory. Watch out when you use these, though - the game doesn't care if you're at full health, and it uses its own judgment when deciding which type of medpak to use.

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Originally Posted by Kenny
I'm really thinking of getting this for $5, but I'm not sure yet, is there bots for mp?

Also on topic, I dunno about binds.

MP bots? No, I don't believe so.

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Originally Posted by eternity94
I just got the game too.

I don't know why, everyone else says they love it, but the game just pisses me off.

The environment is bland, the gun play only works if you get close, but if you do that you usually die so easily, i love a challenge, but this is just annoying. The quests are very run of the mill in which it is; Go here, kill this type of thing. So far there has only been the generic person after generic person all with the same voice acting.

I don't know if it gets better, does anyone know?

Bland Environments: Personally I really enjoy the environments in Stalker. The first area (Cordon) is a little run-of-the-mill, but the Garbage, Dark Valley, Yantar, The Bar, etc. are all pretty interesting in their own right. There's a lot of area to explore and a lot of ways to get around. But if you've seen one forest, yeah, you've pretty much seen 'em all.

I'd give it a little more time before you judge the environments too harshly, though. Later on it does spice up a bit.

Gunplay: I've had no real issue getting at enemies from a distance. It depends on what sort of weapon you have, though. You can't snipe with a pistol, obviously, but the spread on a lot of the guns can get pretty hard to deal with. You don't always have to be dead-on, and it's never a good idea to run into a firefight. Keep your distance, limit your shots, and when the time comes to get closer use a roundabout route or make good use of cover. If you can, try and get enemies one at a time.

Later on you'll get better rifles (including sniper rifles, and scopes for regular ones) that will help with long-distance combat and make life a little easier.

Quests and People: Aside from the storyline quests, the other quests are pretty much randomly-generated. Because of this, they stick to the Fetch Quest archetype (Get X Artifact, Bring Y Animal Part, Kill Z Stalker). However, the important missions usually get a bit more complicated than that.

While every NPC is a unique identity, there's pretty much just one voice actor for each "type" (Bandit, Loner, Army, etc.) and they only do a few sentences each, and written dialogue doesn't vary much (people just don't have much to say I guess).

However, the game isn't an RPG. It's sometimes touted as one, but it isn't at all. The game is a shooter - the quests are just excuses to shoot things. Think of it as Half-Life with more talkative NPCs.

The game definitely gets better as you go on, learn more about the Zone, find new areas and armor, etc. As Hirohito mentioned, Oblivion Lost is definitely worth getting, although I don't necessarily agree that you should wait for a replay before trying it unless you're one of those types that wants to run a game vanilla before modding it.

eternity94 12-22-2008 03:21 AM

Ok, i guess ill keep playing, i do hope it gets better.

Edit: Where would i find the Oblivion lost mod and what does it do?

greenday5494 12-22-2008 04:15 AM

http://tinyurl.com/9dtet2

Circuitous 12-22-2008 04:29 AM

^ Yeah pretty much.

Innoc 12-22-2008 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Circuitous
Later on you'll get better rifles (including sniper rifles, and scopes for regular ones) that will help with long-distance combat and make life a little easier.

except for Pripyat (iirc)...facing off with the Eagle-eyed opponents with the Gauss Rifles was tough. Insane range...insane damage...the only saving grace was the longer reload cycles.

edit: I do like the game BTW.

greenday5494 12-23-2008 04:22 AM

thanks for the help, guys. i got the binding to medkits/bandages work. I got the headbobbing removed, and i got FLOAT32 working as well. Now i have another problem. i really do not like the 50 KG limit that you can carry, and i know there's a mod to increase it. My problem? I try to install it, and the game simply doesnt not launch until i delete the file. :\

Circuitous 12-23-2008 04:50 AM

There are some caveats with any carry weight mods, in that some of them flat-out don't work.

Here's a good tutorial to edit the necessary files yourself.

Works just fine on my Steam copy.

greenday5494 12-23-2008 05:52 AM

thanks. I'm not looking to go up to 2000kg or osmething un realistic, maybe like 100 at most. its that ammo i need moar of it!

maximi 12-23-2008 06:11 AM

5$ huh... seems i missed it :(

greenday5494 12-23-2008 09:19 PM

>.< It seems quicksaves now randomly do not load. when i try to load them, it crashes the game. autosaves work fine. i have no idea what's causing this. Does valve have any QA on steam, like, at all? I also cant play online, due to a difference in versions. i have 1.0005, they have 6. I cant update because steam is supposed to be automatic. gahhhh

edit: i tried -noprefetch, no solution, it still crashes when it's done loading a manual save, quick or not. this is pretty frustrating!

Iggy 12-23-2008 10:15 PM

Have you tried deleting it and re-downloading it?

Bridget 12-24-2008 01:55 AM

Nevermind, I bought it. Disappointed I missed the $5.00 weekend, but $19.99 isn't bad. I'm a total pussy when it comes to horror games, so.. heh.. Shit. ;x

Circuitous 12-24-2008 09:51 AM

It's not much of a horror game, although it does have its suspense and "jump out and get you" moments.

The suspense, though... rooting around in abandoned laboratories with psychic entities picking up discarded weaponry and chucking it at you or blocking your progression via crates, that shit'll get to you.

Greenday, try renaming/deleting the files you edited and see if it changes your loading issue.

greenday5494 12-24-2008 07:44 PM

Yup, i deleted my gamedata folder, and it works now. Now i gotta add things slowly, and see what's up. I really physically cannot play this game vanilla, the headbobbing makes me very nauseous.

greenday5494 12-24-2008 10:51 PM

gah this is really pissing me off. i get rid of all my mods, works fine, but pretty much unplayable, the headbobbing is making me feel sick. so i re-install the no-headbobbing, and of FUCKING course, it crashes when i load. This make NO sense, however, as it worked perfectly fine up till now. this really makes no sense, at all. this is ridiculous

edit: it seems it's ANY mod that makes it crash. any mod, no matter what. it worked fine before!

something else i've noticed: it seems quicksaves saved BEFORE mods are installed work fine. But, when i load saves that are saved AFTER, it crashes at CLIENT:Sychronizing, any mod at all, doesnt matter what.

Where arethe saves located? I'm going to keep them somewhere and just re-download this game. this is pissing me off to no end


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