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Arx 12-15-2007 10:51 PM

Fortress Forever - Video + Audio Tutorials
 
AcidReniX's
FF Tutorials:

New - Tutorial 9, conc aiming.. look down.
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Quick Links to all videos:

Youtube
Stage6 divx High quality
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Tutorial 1: Conc Jumping
(Basic/Essential)
*High Quality Here

This tutorial demonstrates how to perform a concussion grenade jump. Conc jumping is an essential skill for scout, medic and offence players in general to know.

It is done by priming a concussion grenade and jumping when the grenade explodes using the kickback of the grenade to propel you across the map.
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Tutorial 2: Trimping
(Basic/Essential)
*High Quality Here

In this tutorial I demonstrate how to perform a movement technique called Trimping. Trimping is where a player can gain height after jumping onto, and then off of, an elevated surface.

It is a very useful technique for offence and defence players.
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Tutorial 3: Ramp Sliding
(Basic)
*High Quality Here

This is a tutorial to demonstrate how to perform a ramp slide. You will need to know how to conc jump and how air control works in half-life2 to perform this technique effectively.

You can also try combining the trimping tutorial with this one to jump when approaching the top of a ramp to fire youself over an enemy defender.
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Tutorial 4: Bunny Hopping
(Mediocre)
*High Quality Here

In this tutorial I demonstrate how to perform a movement technique called Bunny Hopping. Bunny Hopping is a style of movement involving the jump button, strafe keys and turning your mouse. It gives you a speed increase and is useful for crossing large areas of the map or when mastered, small coridoors or even used in combat.
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Tutorial 5: Default_fov
(Basic)

This is a quick tutorial to show you the differences between changing your fov from 80 to 120. Fov is your field of view and as demonstrated in this video, you can see much more around you if your field of view is larger. It isn't 100% nessesary to change it but I would highly recommend you gradually drift away from the default fov and get used to using a higher one. Even if your aim suffers a fractional amount you will get used to it and it will only benefit you later.
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Tutorial 6: Flame Push
(Mediocre)

In this tutorial I demonstrate the Pyro's flame thrower push effect. The flamethrower has a slight kickback to it. You can use this kick back in conjunction with jumping to help you accelerate quite fast over wide open spaces.
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Tutorial 7: Sharking
(Mediocre)

Sharking is a technique that allows you to maintain speed across water. This tutorial shows you how.
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Tutorial 8: Demoman
(N/A)
*High Quality Here

In this tutorial I demonstrate the core principles of playing demoman.
You should consider this video more of a gameplay vid than a tutorial as it isn't really teaching anything specific, more analysing a style of play.
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Tutorial 9: Conc Aiming
(Mediocre)

This tutorial was created to show players how to aim after you have been concussed. Its quite simple, however it takes a little practice. A lot of players were having difficulty with this one. Just remember... YOUR CROSSHAIR LIEZZZ!!
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A LOT more coming soon, also working on the quality.
If you would like to request a tutorial, message or
comment on youtube.
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Credge 12-15-2007 11:21 PM

Very nice. This is exactly the kind of thing I was hoping someone would make. Very well done.

One tut I think everyone should have would be BHopping. It's such an essential skill for both O and D that everyone should know how to do it.

Again, very well done.

Arx 12-15-2007 11:34 PM

Bunnyhopping is next on the list, I will probaby to it tonight, along with maintaining speed etc. .

bokko 12-16-2007 12:04 AM

Excellent tutorials, acid! This guy was imo one of the best scouts when I played tfc, he makes these moves look easy! Hopefully newbies will find their way to these videos.

4est 12-16-2007 12:16 AM

These are great. Also, you can post high-res videos at www.stage6.com . If you could do that it would makes things easier to see. I'm sure we'd love to have links in the Wiki to your tutorials.

Thanks again.

squeek. 12-16-2007 12:34 AM

Really great stuff. Very well spoken and clear. Well done.

EDIT: These should be posted on the main site. They are too good to waste.

GhostBuster 12-16-2007 04:59 AM

really good job men!

Desyphur 12-16-2007 05:53 AM

*applauds*

You sir are awesome!

This will definitely get people into playing :D

I love the end of the rampsliding video. You snuck a "It's alot better than TF2" in there. :D

P.S: You were that guy sniping me the other night, right? *AE* 583 is my ingame name (I should change my signature XD

Arx 12-16-2007 06:04 AM

Yes the sniper would be me, sorry lol
Well I'm making the tutorials to hopefully get beginners who are enjoying the game to a higher skill level, which in turn attracts the old competitive players back to the game.

Also trying to advertise FF as a higher skill version of TF2, because there will be a lot of people soon who will think they are amazing at TF2 and who enjoy the basic fortress concept. FF will be appealing to those players sooner or later. Just have to wait :)

More video's probably coming tommorow, including some advanced trimps (not a tutorial).

Desyphur 12-16-2007 06:12 AM

It's alright, I got you back a couple times :D

I didn't know about rampsliding :O

I'm gonna start using it and trimping more.

P.S: I want to add you to steam friends, could you add zepro29? That's my account name.

Edit: Found you XD

GeoKill-----> 12-16-2007 09:34 AM

Wow That was really good.
This should be added to the wiki

KubeDawg 12-16-2007 10:04 AM

Very awesome indeed. You take suggestions? Imagine if we had tons of videos like this on youtube! I also like how you went to skill-specific maps for certain skills. I can suggest maybe continuing with different maps to sort of show the public the variety of maps available for Fortress Forever.

Great job!

bokko 12-16-2007 12:30 PM

Request: Tutorial explaining the basics of skimming(off a conc/rocket/gren whatever)
Also sharking!

Again, great work!

AfterShock 12-16-2007 04:39 PM

Great job acid. Stickied!

I would probably word the bunnyhopping tutorial slightly differently (although its already pretty good!). Strafing on the ground and jumping, or turning in a circle on the ground using strafe is actually quite different from the bunny hop mechanic, and might confuse some people.

I usually start teaching people by having them maintain speed after a conc jump, for just 1 or 2 skims. This is an easy skill that anyone can learn, and it can be used immediately in game. Then having them try that around a corner (introduce simple 1 button air control), for example monkey front door. Conc the midmap, turn left around the door.

If new players can learn to skim, but not air control, then you can quickly see why air control is useful and incorporate it, rather than the other way around (learning air control and then skimming). Then finally bunnyhopping comes from putting all those skills together.

Desyphur 12-16-2007 05:37 PM

Holy crap it's AFTERSHOCK!

SmellyCat 12-16-2007 06:56 PM

I agree with shock on the bunnyhopping.

Other than that, these are great. :)

Johnny Mullet 12-16-2007 08:37 PM

Great job on those! I will get them up on my site ;)

=AS= Pt 12-16-2007 08:39 PM

I have 2 questions:

1) How to make the console apear in FF.
2) How to make a video in FF.

I'm not as smooth as Arx, but can do some ingame movies or some tricks too and put them in Youtube.

But great great videos. The Bhop its the harder to understand, but trully great.

Long live Arx...

Arx 12-16-2007 09:03 PM

I just play the game with fraps going recording sound from microphone input.

Its quite hard to explain bunnyhopping without writing a script first, but I'm quite lazy and the technique I show in the tutorial is how I picked it up.

It's not the best tutorial, but it is the method I used. I didn't want to focus on using maintaining speed to learn how to bunnyhop, or people wouldn't learn how to do it, they would only learn how to aircontrol off concs and rockets.

Sharking is up btw.

And to get console, there's an option in your game, its something like, in the multiplayer / advanced or in the keyboard / advanced. There's a tickbox called "enable developer console".

=AS= Pt 12-16-2007 09:37 PM

Thanks Arx... Already made 2 people see your movies :D.

1 step forward in FF.

Gud job =)

AfterShock 12-16-2007 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcidReniX
Its quite hard to explain bunnyhopping without writing a script first, but I'm quite lazy and the technique I show in the tutorial is how I picked it up.

It's not the best tutorial, but it is the method I used. I didn't want to focus on using maintaining speed to learn how to bunnyhop, or people wouldn't learn how to do it, they would only learn how to aircontrol off concs and rockets.

Yeah they're good points.. bunnyhopping is a mission to explain without actually being there teaching someone lol.

Would it be too much to ask for some very short (15 sec) videos of:

- Demoman placing a pipe trap, blowing it up
- Stacking burn levels as pyro with 3 burn weapons
- An explanation of the spy sabotage and how SG can see through cloaking but not disguise
- Building SG and upgrading

Basically I'm trying to get a basic manual on the website and was gonna do a few short vids myself about a few class things (have the youtube vids embedded in the page next to text about the classes), but since you're already on a roll thought i'd ask :D (no probs if not, I can do em)

bokko 12-16-2007 11:57 PM

I made a tutorial of some sorts earlier showing how to lay more precise pipetraps by bouncing the pipes off walls/the ground.
ff_aardvark pipetrap
It kind of fails as a newbie helper though.

Arx 12-17-2007 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AfterShock
Yeah they're good points.. bunnyhopping is a mission to explain without actually being there teaching someone lol.

Would it be too much to ask for some very short (15 sec) videos of:

- Demoman placing a pipe trap, blowing it up
- Stacking burn levels as pyro with 3 burn weapons
- An explanation of the spy sabotage and how SG can see through cloaking but not disguise
- Building SG and upgrading

Basically I'm trying to get a basic manual on the website and was gonna do a few short vids myself about a few class things (have the youtube vids embedded in the page next to text about the classes), but since you're already on a roll thought i'd ask :D (no probs if not, I can do em)


LOL, I've been spending today doing the first 3, just working on getting a nice looking video for them. The other's I could do on lan, those ones i need people so i'm relying on public play.

can do SG stuff though easily

*EDIT* Oh I wasn't doing short ones, I was doing semi/full class guides. I can make some short ones for you though.

AfterShock 12-17-2007 02:21 AM

<3

4est 12-17-2007 03:24 AM

I want to restate how happy I am with these. Ace work!

Arx 12-17-2007 04:21 AM

Demoman video up. Its stage6 and it takes me a little while to buffer, but it is great quality and shows the gameplay very well.

GeoKill-----> 12-17-2007 04:31 AM

Great Video
Also PT got his ass kick :D

Arx 12-17-2007 04:45 AM

In his defence, I think he probably realised i'd be recording and thus stayed scout for the majority of the map. Scout vs demoman isn't really ever going to go well lol.

Desyphur 12-17-2007 04:48 AM

Yeah.

Neither is medic vs demoman if the demo is good enough.

Also, I lvoe your videos. If you need an engi for the spy video, I'll play him.

Arx 12-17-2007 04:52 AM

I try not to stage my video's as it doesn't give a realistic insight into the game, I'd much rather just record a demo straight off a public, pickup or match to show exactly how it is performed in a real game.

But if I just need a stationary player to show say damage output or a feature of the game i'll give you a shout ;p

Desyphur 12-17-2007 04:54 AM

I could, you know, fight back :P

I could go get ammo and come back to a sabotaged turret :P

4est 12-17-2007 04:58 AM

I'll post this in a Steam group announcement tomorrow night if it sounds good to you guys.

Jester 12-17-2007 06:09 AM

By the time the stage6 video is done buffering, you could watch every other youtube one. Would reccomend staying with youtube for the impatient.

Arx 12-17-2007 06:19 AM

I'm doing them both. I'll be gradually uploading them to Stage6 as they take a long time to upload, but some of the tutorials will require good quality as you may need to see distance objects or aiming patterns.

thiz 12-17-2007 08:01 AM

Good work, should help out a lot of people :)

Paft 12-17-2007 08:13 AM

For those that are serious about mastering bunny hopping but can't tell if you're even doing it, I found viewing in thirdperson is good to check if you're even doing it wright or wrong and how you look.

I wrote this to help me when I was learning to bh in TFC.
Again it's just to check basically.
Code:

//3rd person toggle (for a better look at your bunnyhopping offline)
alias 3rdoff "cam_idealyaw 90; firstperson; sv_cheats 0; alias 3rd 3rdon"
alias 3rdon "sv_cheats 1; cam_idealyaw 1; thirdperson; alias 3rd 3rdoff"
3rdon
bind "F9" "3rd"


AfterShock 12-17-2007 11:41 AM

Watching that demoman vid reminds me: those big black dark patches where explosion decals are.. they gotta go! (or at least be tweaked so they don't stay there forever. impossible to see what's going on in that flagroom..)
-> Added to the list!

pF 12-17-2007 11:46 AM

Arx: you sir, are a star.

GhostBuster 12-17-2007 04:45 PM

Oh well, if they are going to be the official videos then i think they have to be re-made,

For example the conc tutorial, add how to strafe in the air and show the huge difference, also the "throw 1 conc and hold another one" demostratng like u conc, grab a flag and conc again... also there is a far more easy way to go up at well, i think its important that the phisycs of the conc get explained, for example if ur too close to the conc u wont get as much as impulse that if u stay on the edge of the blast of the conc. Also u can show the normal concs that would help players on everymap, aardvarks conc (arrow + conc = mega blast), sd2 ramp straight into T junction conc, also the well T to FR with one HH, and well there are many that u can show like for the new players to have an idea where to conc.

Also with the flame pushing, there are way more things that can be done, for example when u fall u can get less damage by aiming the flamethrower at the ground, or reaching higher and further distances.

Also the demoman, it should be explained that the little shotgun is userfull when u for example hurt bad a enemy with a blue pipe or the pipetrap doesnt kill him, also the thing that u can only place 8 pipes, and the detpack that is userfull for some positions and the most important, how to place a pipetrap, like looking down and using physics + logic to make decent pipetraps, maybe show how to place them on some maps, there are certain tricks or spots where u can make a better pipetrap, and well there is more but i think that would be enough.


edit: maybe i can give u a hand with demos or something if u like... i really thougth about doing this like weeks ago but the fact that i speak like borat kinda make me dessist on the idea.

Paft 12-17-2007 04:51 PM

^ That stuff would go in "wtf you need to refer to this after viewing AcidReniX's tutorials is beyond me you stupid mother funker tutorials"


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