Flametrimping.
 

Also, FTP.

It's something I've kept to myself since the release of 2.0 but felt I should share it anyway since I've shared it with a few people already.

The technique is simple and makes the pyro usable on offense but has absolutely no use on defense. This could also be a skill used on skill maps.

First, you must understand how the trimp works. I can't explain why it works, or how, as it doesn't make sense to me. Just think of it as a jump and a half when you've only done half a jump. Eh. See what I mean? You'll know what I'm talking about if you've ever jump a lot on a ramp. Every now and then you'll go higher than a normal jump. That is a trimp.

And that is what we are taking advantage of with this move.

So, we all know by now that the flamethrower has some push to it. In fact, it can propel you in whatever direction you are facing. If you see where I am going with this then you already understand how to do it so don't bother reading anymore. If you're still lost, continue on.

To start, look straight up with your flamethrower and start firing. Hold down your attack button. Now, jump. You should notice that you quickly return to the ground. Now, while in the air press and hold space. This will make you jump again.

After you land, immediately point your flamethrower directly under you. This will cause you to go incredibly high in the air.

Here is a quick video of me doing this:

http://www.wegame.com/watch/Flametrimp/

Enjoy.

I was doing that, and also I thought It was normal , well-known technique :P.
I kinda fail at doing it incredibly high, but much higher than normal. Guy named Icculus is awesome in doing this, he can jump from the ramp in the yard to catwalks at shutdown2.

this is really cool...ty.

Nice! So obvious actually seeing it, but it never really occured that it'd work, and that well too!. :o

what you wanna call shit doesn't rly matter, but just so we all speak the same language: that's a double jump, not a trimp. a trimp is when you're sliding a ramp (or just about to hit a ramp and would slide it if you didn't trimp) and use jump to pop up into the air. some ppl call a "downwards trimp" when you bhop down a ramp to get speed (cos it's the same thing kinda, just the other way round). a double jump is when you jump within a certain amount of time of your previous jump you go higher (mainly useful when going up ramps/ledges/etc, when under low things so that you can hit your head on them and get down again fast, or indeed using the pyro's JETPACKEXTREME, etc) :D

Oh no, you read my mind!

I have already made a skills map utilising this technique :P

I also have sections where they have to get up stairs, but alas, they cannot jump up and their grenades / ammo have been removed! What do they do? What do they do? They use the low-laying ceilings!

Thanks for the wonderful history lesson. Except you forgot that what causes trimping to work is the same thing that causes the 'double jump' to work. They are the same thing. Exactly the same thing.

I don't think so. As I recall a trimp works because angular momentum is translated into forward momentum in quake based engines (which is why bunnyhopping works), where a double jump is not because of that.

You have to jump on the ramp in order to trimp in the quake engine.

Double jump and Trimmping is not the same. Here's an example, in openfire. Your in the water and you forward conc to the ramp and you ramp slide then you jump, thats trimping. Jumping the same ramp in openfire the jumping again, but 2nd jump makes you jump higher, thats double jump.

Thanks Geo. I actually didn't know that :shock:

This is an exploit and it's going to ruin and unbalance the game.




(I don't really mean it, but no one's said it yet and the thread feels empty without some insane opinion. d: )

Geo has it right. It is termed double jumping unless it involves rampsliding.

Although, I don't personally like the term double jump.

I was fucking around with "Double Flame Jump", and its a nice technique to know.

unless FF has changed a load recently (i've been without pc cos of moving house):

no it's not the same, and they are not the same thing.

those video tutorials have the name wrong. i told acid a while back but he obviously doesn't think it's important enough to update them (and it's not important tbh, it's just useful if we can all use the same terms so we can understand each other!). the big problem with naming them both "trimping" is that ppl might not realise all the cool movement "it" (i.e. trimping and double jumping) can let you do because they think it's only one feature.

yes there is.

PS as others have said, simply whether it involves a ramp isn't what determines what it is (e.g. probably the most common way to trigger a double jump is by jumping at a ramp). the best description i can give was in my last post, so read it carefully if you wanna understand.

Dear caesium,

You are wrong.

Love,
Everyone

Quake terminology will settle all!

Trimping = ramp jumping = jumping on a ramp; effect most noticeable performed with speed; horizontal speed is converted into vertical speed, so to speak.

Double jumping = jumping in quick succession = find a ledge, jump from the lower surface up to the higher surface with a second jump queued; if done correctly, you should receive a boost to vertical speed, thus gaining more height.

They are two different skills, but the principle behind them is the same.

Double jumping does not work well in Fortress Forever as the player easily clips edges. In pretty much all Q3-based games, the player does not clip edges so easily, double jumping (the space between you and the corner of the ledge is not as strict as Fortress Forever, making double jumping more viable / readily performed) or not (you can hit a corner yet you seem to "bend" around it, not so with Fortress Forever)

both are extremely useful in FF.