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GambiT 09-24-2007 07:05 PM


dkr 09-30-2007 09:06 AM

I think night :)

GREAT idea for a FF map btw.. loved playing it in UT

MightyLotu 09-30-2007 10:46 AM

snow theme at night with teamcolloured lights that light up the walls all over the place

hughJ 09-30-2007 12:02 PM

I've started to find that there's a strong correlation between visibility and enjoyment level in regards to the maps. :P If it must be at night, please make the bases well-lit to make it easy to distinguish classes and teams. :)

Fragile 09-30-2007 04:41 PM

thanks for doin' this map. i know i said i would, but due to unforeseen consequences, my free time has withered.

SizeableSSonic 09-30-2007 04:43 PM

Aww, you were doing great too.

Anyway, I don't ever remember Redgiant being in UT, I only remember it in TFC...

mistermojo 09-30-2007 04:47 PM

snowey would be kind of cool, instead of outside walls, you could have frozen snow with platforms "built in"

Ihmhi 10-29-2007 12:20 AM

GambiT showed me a few screenshots of redgiant and it is looking positively ace!

So do not worry about it guys, it is coming along nicely. I know because I am always interrupting his work. dX

GambiT 10-29-2007 07:46 PM

SS's in first post

Player 10-29-2007 08:13 PM

The lighting makes everything look flat

Dr.Satan 10-29-2007 08:17 PM

looking great...definitely needs to be fine tuned, but it looks sweet!

barronofhellion 10-29-2007 10:20 PM

wow thats a lot of work to come out of the blue like that... congrats and keep up the good work

Ihmhi 10-29-2007 11:56 PM


Originally Posted by Player
The lighting makes everything look flat

I actually think the lighting is pretty nice... it seems to give everything a sort of comfortable glow to it. I am ever so sick of the insane lighting in mapping in some games. Subtlety is very underappreciated.

GambiT 10-31-2007 12:58 PM

i dont think anybody noticed and i forgot to mention. if you look at the 3rd SS all the way to the left you'll see a door. i'm planning on having a ladder going up to the top floor/balcony or whatever. it will be like the ladder on well going up to the top of the base only instead of walls it'll be like part of the mountains i plan on having surrounding the map. i am only doing this on the side you spawn from.

Dr.Satan 10-31-2007 03:32 PM

lmao ihmhi that comic was great!

Player 10-31-2007 05:22 PM

On another note: it is possible to overdose on curves.

GambiT 10-31-2007 05:28 PM

its ok player i will make another version JUST for you that will be blocky as hell.

Fragile 10-31-2007 05:58 PM

what are the sides of the yards looking like right now?

GambiT 10-31-2007 06:08 PM

sorry didnt realize i didnt take SS's of that. i've yet to really mess with the sides, im still debating on how i want to do it. i'm thinking maybe have the wall cutting in the mountain side are something. here is a SS from a few compiles ago that shows a little more of the sides than the previous SS's. i'll take one or two tonight when i get home.

Player 10-31-2007 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by GambiT
its ok player i will make another version JUST for you that will be blocky as hell.

lolsensitive; from one extreme to the other...

I just think there are too many curves, it has destroyed much of the flow of the map and in some parts it looks really awkward. Pictures 15 and 16 are, I believe, a good example of this.

GambiT 10-31-2007 07:08 PM

i think the curves make it prettier than it would be if it were sharp corners. besides you dont get hung up as much on curves.

can you be more specific to the curves your talking about in the SS's(the last 2 right?)

i am open to suggestions, if you present me with something that you think would look better in a certain area than what i have and i agree, i will certainly try it out.

Ihmhi 11-01-2007 05:48 AM

If I were a srs mapper I would probably only put sharp curves/corners on a map where I wanted players to get stuck.

Curves look nicer IMO and more importantly they can be used in ever so many ways for movement skills. Well's bunker roof, for instance, has a very tiny curve (I think like 8 hammer units high?) in the middle of the roof. If you hit that with a double conc (or one good HH) you will sail straight up to the enemy roof from ground level.

GambiT 11-13-2007 01:07 AM

new SS's first post, i realize that a lot of things still need tweaking. right now i'm wondering how it plays, if i need to make any major structural changes. i still have a list of stuff to do. it will be up on 3 different servers in the coming days, definitely before this weekend.

[AE] 82694 11-13-2007 01:33 AM

sweet can't wait.

GambiT 11-13-2007 04:41 PM

once you play it(this weekend) please post ALL comments good or bad here, i will keep a list up to date in the first post. i am willing to compromise so that we ALL enjoy this map.

Dr.Satan 11-13-2007 04:57 PM

omg i want to play this map sooooooooooooo bad...have you finished it yet?

GambiT 11-13-2007 05:11 PM

im getting a leak now when i try to compile. only thing i've added is the nogren and nobuilds since last compile, so it shouldnt be hard at all to fix. the point file is not helping at all, in fact its way out in the grid away from my base. i'm going to redo them tonight and let it compile while i watch "House".

only other thing is i have NO experience putting textures into the bsp, so i need to figure that out asap.

would i make the RES file show each individual texture and vmt i used or just the folder(ff_redgiant)? and that would make y'all DL all of them right?

nodnarb 11-13-2007 06:02 PM

GambiT 11-14-2007 12:24 PM

i compiled it last night, will try that tonight.

also, do "nogrens" work? or not?

i put them in my map, and they dont work, wondering if i done them wrong or if they just dont work.

nobuilds work though.

GambiT 11-14-2007 04:56 PM

Map Analyst MAN

which one? i'm new to this and want to use the one that is easiest...

[AE] 82694 11-14-2007 11:19 PM

Well how many files do you have. Most that I have put on the server go something like this.


Those are the two main folders and files in those ones unless I fucked up some place. It all depends on how you set up your map. If you have custom sounds and textures then I think they have to go some place else but thes guys know better than me.

Edit: then zip or rare your choice.

GambiT 11-14-2007 11:44 PM

i have, right now, 1 custom texture(the snow[hl2] and dirt[FF]) but i also have 2 more blend textures i made for the skybox that isnt in yet. the textures are in "materials/ff_redgiant" so would i include the folder "ff_redgiant" or include just the textures in the folder? i imagine that i would just include the folder and everything in it would go with it, but ya never know.

i'm also considering making my own signs.

once i release the map i will also release the textures on here for the mappers around here, there just wasnt enough snow textures for me.

[AE] 82694 11-15-2007 12:27 AM

Just look at your server ftp.

materials/ff_redgiant/texture name.vmt,.vtf

Edit: sorry about the edit again.
I learned all this stuff from uploading files to the server. I keep a working server copy on my desk top of all the important zips, map files , map bz2 files. So I have unziped compressed up loaded all that shit all the maps from here.

GambiT 11-16-2007 02:37 AM

the beta is on [AE]'s server, the IP is in the first post.

please post ALL comments here, good or bad.

it will be on Old Timers server shortly as well as our's, i will let you know when the map is on them.

trepid_jon 11-16-2007 03:22 AM

Pretty cool theme going on. Dark maps tend to be less played, so be careful with that. Jesse and I came close to making cz2 a day/dusk map just for that reason, but decided we like cool lighting better than player counts.......or cause we thought we made it bright enough (but who knows?).

I'd say this area seems kinda bland...

But it's still early, I guess. So yeah...make her smell pretty.

GambiT 11-16-2007 03:53 AM

i love dark maps. this is how that section looks currently:

it is still early, and alot of tweeking to do im sure, it'll look ALOT better once i get the mountains in.

zSilver_Fox 11-16-2007 04:06 AM


I love you.

GambiT 11-16-2007 04:08 AM

lol im flattered, really, but i already have to many to keep up with. :lol:

barronofhellion 11-16-2007 04:35 AM

well just got a chance to play... have to say its looking great... if you make the snow shiny like you said it think it would look even better.. however i happen to notice that snow+fog+spy = worthless heh
-edit imo i would put a railing where the spawn room is to make it look like your not floating

4est 11-16-2007 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by GambiT
i love dark maps. this is how that section looks currently:

it is still early, and alot of tweeking to do im sure, it'll look ALOT better once i get the mountains in.

That looks absolutely amazing... DO THE DARK!

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