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Iggy 06-26-2011 01:48 AM

2.42 First Impressions
 
This is for both long time players, and newcomers alike.

What are your first impressions of v2.42?

If you've played before, do you like the changes that have been implemented?

If you're new to the game, do you feel that Fortress Forever continues the Fortress Game Tradition?

If you could change something, what would it be?

Feel free to take time evaluating the new patch, however, we do want your input.

WiFiDi 06-26-2011 02:24 AM

heavy weapons guy super fucking powered. :mrgreen::thumbsup:

Z4toichi 06-26-2011 02:28 AM

I was having fun, but old timers are late to the party. and people left the only server that wasnt locked...only got to try soldier..I like the new nail, and got to see the hw new nade, liked that as well.

FreaK367 06-26-2011 03:22 AM

Gave it a good go on the servers that actually updated, although I was looking forward to playing on OT.

I tried most changes, I found the Heavy Weapons Guy to really be useful now, the slow grenade is great, makes concing scouts less of a threat, and generally makes defending easier, I can imagine on Destroy, a slow grenade will really work on the ramps as scouts like to conc up there at high speed.

The Overpressure is a great feature too, really up there, I played mainly OvD maps on 2.42, with Squeek at one point actually, and it was so satisfying to perfectly use overpressure when on the cap point and an enemy is just about to land on the cap with the flag. To be able to push them away and let the SG take care of them, really good, I actually found myself replicating the example of Overpressure which was shown in the 2.42 trailer, when soldiers were trying to rocket jump up to higher places where I was, I just blasted them back where they came from. So I really like the HW changes.

I like the look of the colour coded jump pads and dispensers, and I was happy to see that although the jump pad can be destroyed, it had no time limit, so on certain maps it could be very useful, like getting across the yard on Destroy, less need to keep building a jump pad.

The Soldiers laser grenade is much much better than the nail grenade, like, beyond better. I was a Heavy and one went off at my feet, and my health just dropped, fast. It's something to be avoided now. I prefer it to the nail grenade.

Not sure if you made a change but the jump pads felt more powerful to me, I thought I remembered them launching me at between 700 - 800 speed, but now it's over 1000. Unless I am just confused about the earlier figures.

I like the overall look of things, and apart from a glitchy railgun animation, everything seemed smooth, and I wasn't getting any FPS issues from what I remember.

I like the update, and I look forward to really trying it out in the future, once OT hurries up and updates :P, I can see myself actually playing a Heavy now gasp, considering it was one of the classes I very rarely touched, like Pyro.

Good work to the Dev team.

Trailer 06-26-2011 04:36 AM

I like everything except the client crashes, and I think the jump pads should have more health, they go down too easy. Other than that it seems to work.

Jay Mofo Mills 06-26-2011 05:37 AM

My first impression is that the defense got SIGNIFICANT buffs and scout/medic main offense classes got significantly nerfed.

Medic: Infection no longer kills. Thank god the medpack does more damage. Reload on the nailgun pfft.... Don't try to dm a Heavy. Don't try to take out a sentry gun. You'll just hit a slow nade and be too busy fucking reloading that 2 grenades and your 1-1/2 clips of a nailgun can't get past the engy constantly whacking his gun and the 3 other defenders raping you. The medic got completely neutered and I'm ashamed to play him now. Its sad.

Scout: Team jumppads - well it is what it is. Moot point for me, though the slow nade causes major problems. Good for a noob HW who holds down m1 and can't aim well. Bad in the hands of someone who can already play HW well.

I like the soldiers laser nade. Need to playtest more but game keeps crashing even after hotfix.

I'll play a little more to get a better feel but this is my first impressions.

I think I might jump on the bandwagon of the majority of people who just play defense. Especially since it just got easier and Offense just got a lot harder.

I don't mean to gripe.

To be fair, I think some of the concepts are neat. They could be useful, the current implementation does not feel anywhere near balanced to me. Good work on getting it out there. You dev's kick ass for keeping this game moving.

Love FF.

Raynian 06-26-2011 07:01 AM

IMO this will actually make the DvD in pubs go down a bit - at least, I hope. Since you need less defenders to be able to stop the offense now, it'll free up some more people to attack. Snipers still make the whole interaction gay, of course. But whatever.

chilledsanity 06-26-2011 08:22 AM

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7841/users.th.jpg

Mt first impression is this needs more publicity. :(

Ricey 06-26-2011 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilledsanity (Post 486419)
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7841/users.th.jpg

Mt first impression is this needs more publicity. :(

Hi, My name is chilledsanity and I am trying to play FF at 4:40am.

You fail sir.

AtomicSphinCteR 06-26-2011 08:44 AM

In between crashes....
Played HW more than i EVER play it. Push effect and slow gren made the class fun to play. Slow gren is still a little overpowered.
Solly laser grenade seems ok, time will tell on that one.
Medic SN clip is a fail, looking forward to the patch that fixes it.
Didn't get a chance to to play scout against the beefed up D classes since my Belkin n52 died last night and the Razer Nostromo is nowhere near as smooth.
I had some framerate issues as well (25% lower than usual).
Thanks for dedicating the time to some interesting updates, and fixes for the not-so-interesting ones.

moosh 06-26-2011 10:44 AM

Love it. Sadly with the new FPS issues, my old machine lags like heck and I can't experience the gameplay properly. :confused:

I like almost all of the changes, soft-clipping being my favourite. :)

:thumbsup:

episkopos 06-26-2011 10:50 AM

The laser grenade doesn't seem that much different from the nail grenade, other than the beams can be dodged and it doesn't explode. It's still deadly to anyone who's too close when it activates.

The Super Nailgun does not need a clip. It's a horrible idea and it needs to be removed. I was surprised to see that it had made it into the patch. The Medic was perfectly balanced before. This just adds more annoyance to playing him.

Infection changes are okay. It's good to see that a silly idea Robin Walker had fifteen years ago has been made sensible.

The true-aim-crosshairs-while-firing have made conc aim infinitely easier, and the handheld concs not affecting enemies means that defense can expect to be conced a lot less. I would argue that this constitutes quite a large buff to defense. On the other hand, I am in favour of it because it makes playing D far less annoying, and less anoyance is good.

Soft clipping is slightly disconcerting after being used to bumping into allies, but overall I'm in favour of it.

Jump pads are too weak.

New visual effects are nice.

Slowfield I didn't really experience. Overpressure I don't really have much of an opinion on. The sliding effect feels unnecessary.

Overall, I think this patch pushes CTF balance too strongly in favour of D. The little things that have been changed or added mostly benefit D in some way, and this adds up into quite a large buff for D.

chilledsanity 06-26-2011 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ricey (Post 486421)
Hi, My name is chilledsanity and I am trying to play FF at 4:40am.

You fail sir.

So does all of Europe then (where I am at the moment), plus making it 1am west coast as well. I also tried about 9 hours earlier and there were 2 servers active. One with 1 person in it, the other with 8 playing a map I didn't have where the auto-download didn't work.

Plus for a NEW LAUNCH in about a year, I would hope the playercount would spike at least a LITTLE.

EDIT:

Just checked again at the time of this post, still completely empty.

Ricey 06-26-2011 11:12 AM

FF's official servers, trailer's and talos all had players in them for most of the day.

Raynian 06-26-2011 12:07 PM

Could someone upload the female announcer sounds? I had it set to them before, but updating overwrote that and I forgot to make a backup of it. :x

Z4toichi 06-26-2011 01:17 PM

Got back on and played on Trialer's server, and had a great couple of hours. I experienced almost no drop in frames. There was a couple of odd times here and there. I played both O and D. I had no problem with scout. Of course when I was there aardvark or any other map where a HW could really dominate with their slow nades never came up. We did play Monkey but I don't recall anyone trying to play front door HW on that. I agree jump pad needs more health. Soft clipping is great, but will take some getting used to after years of bumping into fellow team mates ( I still try to dodge them instinctively). I didn't see anything about the true aim crosshairs, so I must have looked like a fool trying to aim while being conc'd.

FreaK367 06-26-2011 01:25 PM

Just got to add, I hate the new FF 2.42 background, when I seen it my reaction was eugh, the old one just looked cooler. And it looks like it was taken on a PC with low video settings, it does FF no justice. And it's the first impression people see when turning the game on.

I think it should be an action shot, it doesn't scream this game is fast paced and enjoyable (nor did the old one, but it was simplicity that made it good), I'd have staged it to get a laser grenade in there, an SG in the background, shooting at a concing scout just about to leave the base flying over the laser grenade with the SG's rocket just exploding behind the scout against a wall. Or something like that. Sometimes a good scout can escape pure chaos and behind him can be like a warzone he has just escaped. It can be a pretty awesome scene.

I'll try and capture some good screenshots when in game, but I only run 1920 x 1080.

moosh 06-26-2011 01:59 PM

Starting screen needs some black bars on the top and bottom imo.

Crazycarl 06-26-2011 02:31 PM

The menu background comes in a widescreen version and a 4:3 version, but there seems to be a bug where if you run in 16:10 ratio, it shows the 4:3 ratio background, which stretches it really badly.

Both images have to be shrunk down to 1024 by 1024 for the engine to load it at all, and then the game resizes them to fit the window. It may be possible to bump that up to 2048 by 2048, but there's not much point unless you're taking screnshots at a high resolution to start with.

The pic itself is an action shot, taken during a beta test. We'll take submissions for menu pics any time.

FreaK367 06-26-2011 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazycarl (Post 486443)
The menu background comes in a widescreen version and a 4:3 version, but there seems to be a bug where if you run in 16:10 ratio, it shows the 4:3 ratio background, which stretches it really badly.

Both images have to be shrunk down to 1024 by 1024 for the engine to load it at all, and then the game resizes them to fit the window. It may be possible to bump that up to 2048 by 2048, but there's not much point unless you're taking screnshots at a high resolution to start with.

The pic itself is an action shot, taken during a beta test. We'll take submissions for menu pics any time.

If 1920 x 1080 is big enough for a submission, I will try to take some good screenshots in game, mainly from spectator if I manage to spec a really good scout or medic, like Panda, Atomic or Moya amongst others. I'll be taking Steam screenshots.

I'll up the Anti Aliasing and Anisotropic before doing so to try and take better quality ones. I don't mind any of my pc components bar my old 1gb Geforce 9600GT graphics card, that's the only thing that limits me graphically. But if spectator allows me to push the boat out a little, I'll rack everything up even further, I run most settings on high.


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