Circ, it looks like the lip at the FD is gone now... can you confoim this?

The what?

I played monkey_l like once in my life.

wtf? monkey is a great map.
You don't know what you're missing.

the angled corner deals are still there

Yes I do.

When i was playing it, you can conc up the ramp from the bottom doors, then if u quickly hold jump again in mid air you can clip the ramp and get a double jump that will skim you right onto the flag. Its pretty cool.

The only change I didnt like was the stepped ceiling corner in this shot:
http://www.fortress-forever.com/media/ff_monkey0009
because i used to conc in the front door then conc off of the curved ceilning to get propelled straight down at the T junction to hop round the corner with lightning speed. Also a good one to use if the flag is laying about in this room. Unfortunately you cant do these moves any more because you just crash into the steps on the ceiling.

The tree in the back left snags the player if you conc to water or something similar and could do with being clipped. http://www.fortress-forever.com/media/ff_monkey0009

All of the monkies are slightly off the wall by something like 1 or 2 units you can see if you look along the wall from the corner.

...just have to alter your concing strategy then so as not to hit the tree :D

Change is good. People will probably think up new moves offa this version and you know it.

2 to 1 on leet players rampsliding off the trees in the yard somehow.

Thanks, it was hard to tell from the screenshots.


And Circ... my bad, I just assumed you were familiar with Monkey... on each side of the FD are little lips (think schtop, but turned 90 degrees) that you can hit if you conc from your own FD. Hitting it right will send you skimming around the corner in midair. It's pretty much the only way for a scout to ovecome a decent HW at the FD.

The player can't collide with either of these...

yeah theyre still in. you can just make them out in this pic:
http://www.fortress-forever.com/media/ff_monkey0005
although I think theyre at a slightly differnet angle, you can still use them for a boost round the corner.

well it was only the tree i was saying needed better clipping, the monkey is not touching the wall thats what i was saying.

Sounds good... I can't say it's one of my favorite TFC maps, but with this amazing new architecture, and given the fact that the little nuances still remain, I just might fall in love.

Also that sounds neat.

Looks amazing. Great job.

Oh, those.

Yeah I used those a couple times on some concs and got some fucking insane speed off 'em. Kept hitting the wall because I'm not used to it yet.

Yeah that tight little turn takes some practice. It's definately there for a reason though.

that sounds seriously cool! How about having a schtop style (small) ramp accross the entrance aswell would be neat.

Or you can use the bridge, which has plenty of room.

Just popping in to say that this map look fucking gorgeous, never played the TFC version so don't know how it plays.