Death From Above 1979

[Peppas]

Wallhacking in talos @ 9:15pm 6/15/2011

Demo is here
http://www.sendspace.com/file/sao1yy

"death from above 1979" STEAM_0:0:36208003
All servers please ban :thumbsup:.

[FreaK367]

Hmmm, just watched it, initially it didn't look like much, he's not playing to a very high standard, I've taken faster shots and been called a cheater many times, but nearing the end, he does seem to know where their sniper is a bit to well.

Not sure if it's damning evidence, but it does look bad for him.

And to be honest, even if he isn't wallhacking, he should still be banned from FF just for using that soundboard. It gets SO ANNOYING. After every kill all you hear is "would you look at that", any soundboard should be illegal. I've heard multiple people with that, ruins games. And what sort of impression does it give to new players.

[KubeDawg]

haha I think that soundboard is hilarious.

[Peppas]

yes you are right about the last part being the most obvious, he shot the damn wall 3 times trying to get him (HELLO RED FLAG!). I sniped against him and I could already tell that he was. I am 100% sure he was using them. The timing of coming out, look for the enemy sniper, and put the dot right on him was way to fast. There was some points I couldn't even react. Soon as he came out, I could see the red laser right on me every time instantly and I moved around a lot on the battlements. That does not happen as often as it did without wallhacks. But I did have a 1:2 kill death ratio against him :lol:

[Raynian]

well would you look at that

I MEAN LOOK AT IT

IT'S NOT EVEN A WALLHACK

[Peppas]

ok if you do not want to call it a wallhack, so be it. But you can NOT say he could not see through the walls.

[Raynian]

'kay

He couldn't see through the walls.
A) most of the time it was damn obvious where your buttbuddy LM was.
B) no proof that nobody on the enemy team didn't just teamchat the location of the sniper at the end.

Get a server side demo or better proof.

[DEATHFROMABOVE1979]

lol

[Peppas]

raynian, it was really childish of you to make that post and insulting me like that. I like playing in pub servers and never yell or rage new players that are still developing. I like playing sniper and I am pretty damn good at it. I have played against snipers that are better than me, and I know they did not hack. You shouldn't bash me for this. From the way you respond I can tell you are not experienced with this matter. I have banned many (100+) wallhacking snipers in a TFC pub. I have seen some do it in FF. I know I am right, I caught this guy. And my response to the "teamchat nonsense". There were 3-4 other players playing CTF, they didn't flippin care about the 2 snipers going at each other.

[Raynian]

'kay

If there was stuff that was more damning than what's on that demo, fine.
But get a demo of it.

There's only one "questionable" case in that entire demo, and that's right at the very end - but you haven't crossed out all possibilities aside from hacking. So stop falling back onto it.

If you think shooting the wall a few times is hacking - no. LM was in the water for that entire segment. He wasn't even moving. I shoot the wall all the time while I'm trying to edge fight against another sniper, since I want to try to, you know, not get shot. Accidentally shooting the edge a few times is a consquence of that.

Saying you've caught hackers before is great. Doesn't change the fact that there's no proof here that he's hacking.

[DEATHFROMABOVE1979]

lol

[Peppas]

how many times have you watched the demo? LM did move, he did not move dramatically too far away. He was moving side to side like most snipers do and DFA always had his dot right on him as soon as he came out not even letting a millisecond go by. He even did that to me and I was always moving while sniping and soon as he edge around the corner the laser is right on me. He had his laser behind the wall, not running on the outside. The timing is way to superior to be legit.

From someone who also knows what he is talking about...

9:57 PM - the cake (1): wow lol
9:57 PM - the cake (1): looking at him thru walls
9:58 PM - [ESAD] Sgt. Peppas: verdict?
9:58 PM - the cake (1): 90% sure
9:58 PM - the cake (1): thats hacks
9:58 PM - the cake (1): lawl
9:58 PM - the cake (1): the shit towards the end
9:59 PM - [ESAD] Sgt. Peppas: yup
9:59 PM - the cake (1): is pretty obvious
9:59 PM - [ESAD] Sgt. Peppas: thats what i said
9:59 PM - [ESAD] Sgt. Peppas: plus i was sniping against him and could tell
9:59 PM - the cake (1): he goes to the right
9:59 PM - the cake (1): cause he can see him thru the wall
9:59 PM - the cake (1): never goes right any other time
9:59 PM - the cake (1): then randomly decides to check right side
9:59 PM - the cake (1): also was pointing at him thru walls when he was in the water
9:59 PM - the cake (1): like not accidental
9:59 PM - the cake (1): changing the mouse position to his head
10:00 PM - the cake (1): while staring at the wall


How much do you pub raynian? How many times have you heard or saw your teammates type in the teamsay, "Hey sniper, the enemy sniper is over here!" "Wait he moved, he is over here now!" Wait, he moved again, he is over here!" Very rare and with the small number of people that were ctfing it up were ignoring the fact there were two snipers. The blue team was on offense and the red was defense.

[Raynian]

'kay

Server owners, make your decisions.

This conversation is over. Peppas can't get over his butthurt.

[the_cake]

Type these in the console while watching the demo to see what I'm talking about:

sv_cheats 1
r_drawothermodels 2

Yes, "Demos look more sketchy with wallhack vision on, etc, etc..." I've already heard those kinds of arguments. I stand by what I told siscos.

[aware]

I know I am right, I caught this guy.

lol'd

[Peppas]

Type these in the console while watching the demo to see what I'm talking about:

sv_cheats 1
r_drawothermodels 2

Yes, "Demos look more sketchy with wallhack vision on, etc, etc..." I've already heard those kinds of arguments. I stand by what I told siscos.

It makes the last part way too obvious as you can see he was following him through the wall even when he moved a bit. Then the other time at the end where he saw him to the right part of the yard. And also when lm faked him out by acting like he was about the jump out but didn't and he shot!

Now blinky, you still gonna ride on his pogo stick? Or do you see the logic now?

[rdrt]

Hacker.

[Ventry(Leo Wainker)]

Type these in the console while watching the demo to see what I'm talking about:

sv_cheats 1
r_drawothermodels 2

Yes, "Demos look more sketchy with wallhack vision on, etc, etc..." I've already heard those kinds of arguments. I stand by what I told siscos.

Well....
I was skeptical when I first watched this BUT, after typing those commands it looked VERY sus. Especially towards the end.

Even though the dude in the water was moving around DFA had his dot right on him from behind the wall.

To my eyes.. Very Suspect.
I don't like ppl getting banned but, I hate cheats more.

My 2 cents nothing more.

[Atreuce]

Death isn't a hacker.. he's just annoying. :P

[eomoyaff]

Before I watched it without those commands and was more opposed to this. But after that. And then grabbing a demo of the King sniping. I saw a major difference between the two.

Verdict, DFA is duh bes' hacker.

Haxors,

GTFOHax,

MaximumHax,

OMG A SUPER AIR BLUEHAX,

MAC 'N HAX

HAXARONI

SPEGHAX

HAXOR, THE MOVIE.

I got a Fever, and the only perscription is more WALL HAX.

Obviously.


Im hungry.

[DeToXxX]

Hackusation?

He's been banned from TALOS.

[LeadMine]

how many times have you watched the demo? LM did move, he did not move dramatically too far away. He was moving side to side like most snipers do and DFA always had his dot right on him as soon as he came out not even letting a millisecond go by. He even did that to me and I was always moving while sniping and soon as he edge around the corner the laser is right on me. He had his laser behind the wall, not running on the outside. The timing is way to superior to be legit.

From someone who also knows what he is talking about...

9:57 PM - the cake (1): wow lol
9:57 PM - the cake (1): looking at him thru walls
9:58 PM - [ESAD] Sgt. Peppas: verdict?
9:58 PM - the cake (1): 90% sure
9:58 PM - the cake (1): thats hacks
9:58 PM - the cake (1): lawl
9:58 PM - the cake (1): the shit towards the end
9:59 PM - [ESAD] Sgt. Peppas: yup
9:59 PM - the cake (1): is pretty obvious
9:59 PM - [ESAD] Sgt. Peppas: thats what i said
9:59 PM - [ESAD] Sgt. Peppas: plus i was sniping against him and could tell
9:59 PM - the cake (1): he goes to the right
9:59 PM - the cake (1): cause he can see him thru the wall
9:59 PM - the cake (1): never goes right any other time
9:59 PM - the cake (1): then randomly decides to check right side
9:59 PM - the cake (1): also was pointing at him thru walls when he was in the water
9:59 PM - the cake (1): like not accidental
9:59 PM - the cake (1): changing the mouse position to his head
10:00 PM - the cake (1): while staring at the wall


How much do you pub raynian? How many times have you heard or saw your teammates type in the teamsay, "Hey sniper, the enemy sniper is over here!" "Wait he moved, he is over here now!" Wait, he moved again, he is over here!" Very rare and with the small number of people that were ctfing it up were ignoring the fact there were two snipers. The blue team was on offense and the red was defense.


Actually i moved from batts to bushes off a diff area to water to his batts and every single time he would just walk out aiming directly at me.. he even walked further out into the open on the batts to aim at me in the water because he knew i was there and he had to walk up to the edge of it. Verfict guilty. i also was playing aliased to catch him about a week before because i assumed he was cheatin. the map was destroy i pretending to be afk.. about 3 seconds later while playing defense i snuck into his base completely aware that he was in my base he had no idea were i was and he just came blasting blue pipes from around a wall at me completely blatant and he thought i was some kind of newb.. alll during the game He played completely blantant.. in sisco's demo i tried my best to give a solid form of prooof that he was cheating however i think i kill him to much instead of letting him get caught.

[Atreuce]

You actually have credibility to add anything useful to this thread, LM? I'm shocked.

Don't forget your server crashing binds are mapped to mousewheel!

[LeadMine]

You actually have credibility to add anything useful to this thread, LM? I'm shocked.

Don't forget your server crashing binds are mapped to mousewheel!

lol sure as fuck showed trailer because of his own ignorance to listen to people about stuff his server was crashed. a little breakdown.. when someone is trying to help you at least offer them the chance to listen. i did not crash trailers server intentionally to be malicious rather i told him several times his server didn't have the plugins to protect against such a thing and he insisted that it did.. So what do you know.. a case of i was right and he was was hurt.. Shame it had to be in front of all his buddies lol. As far as credibility im a regular FF pickup player who runs 3/4 servers we use here in this community and pay for another. which doesn't say much because ive only been around since Aug 2010 but its clearly evident that i know exactly how to catch Death from above in this demo sisco's took were i tested him over and over and every time he failed. oh and bro. Dont let your alligator mouth override your mosquito ass.

[Trailer]

RAAAAAAAAAGE!!!

[Peppas]

ok now children, lets keep it on topic.

Server owners if you do believe and agree with me, after watching this demo and using the r_changemodels 2 command during demo playing, go back to the 1st page and his steamid is there for you to banish it! :mrgreen:

[Trailer]

Done.

[Atreuce]

lol sure as fuck showed trailer because of his own ignorance to listen to people about stuff his server was crashed. a little breakdown.. when someone is trying to help you at least offer them the chance to listen. i did not crash trailers server intentionally to be malicious rather i told him several times his server didn't have the plugins to protect against such a thing and he insisted that it did.. So what do you know.. a case of i was right and he was was hurt.. Shame it had to be in front of all his buddies lol. As far as credibility im a regular FF pickup player who runs 3/4 servers we use here in this community and pay for another. which doesn't say much because ive only been around since Aug 2010 but its clearly evident that i know exactly how to catch Death from above in this demo sisco's took were i tested him over and over and every time he failed. oh and bro. Dont let your alligator mouth override your mosquito ass.

lolumad

Grats to you for owning half the community - that doesn't change the fact that you're a giant douchebag.

Trailer may have jumped the gun when you were trying to "help" him, but the way you went about the entire thing was childish, and assholish.

Edit: dfa can stay banned for all I care - all he does is talk shit and pipe respawns. big loss =\

[Trailer]

Well, that demo is pretty convincing of him wall hacking. I believe it. He seems like the type too. He just trolls everyone and tries to piss people off, what better way to piss people off than by a walling as a sniper?

[Agent Buckshot Moose]

I sniped against him once, found it very suspicious. Didn't have a demo though. Guess this clears all that up.