[REQUEST] Conversion of TFC Player models over to FF

[KubeDawg]

I'm not even sure this can be done, with the skeletons and all, but I would love to have the option to use TFC models that have been ported to FF, preferably to look better(higher res). If it can be done, is the conversion process an easy one?

[Firefox11]

/me wants camo Soldier with rockets in backpack.

[Paft]

Eww. Not the "new models" I hope? They Remind me too much of TF2.

How do you not find that boring seeing visuals from another game. :)
I am not implying you don't like FF's models, but I do like them. I don't have that corny and dumb noobish feeling like I do with TFC's newer ones.

[KubeDawg]

Eww. Not the "new models" I hope? They Remind me too much of TF2.

How do you not find that boring seeing visuals from another game. :)
I am not implying you don't like FF's models, but I do like them. I don't have that corny and dumb noobish feeling like I do with TFC's newer ones.

Yep the new TFC models. I started playing TFC the day it came out, meaning when Casbah was released, so I have no previous likenesses towards the old TFC models. I love the new TFC models. Especially Soldier, Medic, and HW Guy.

[Firefox11]

AFAIK, FF's Medic is way more similar to TF2's than TFC's, where he actually is a Combat Medic. Same applies for the Sniper, who actually looks like he is in a warzone.

Also, camo face with backpack Soldier = win.

Last, this is just me, but sunglasses + headset, full clothes camo Scout > FF's hi-tech Scout > TF2's bonker.

[Jester]

Need to get this straight, old or new TFC models? Looks like you are saying new, but want to be 200% sure.

[KubeDawg]

new
new
new :)

[Jester]

Like this?
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e131/thejester11/scouty.jpg

[KubeDawg]

YES@!

[Paft]

Firefox11:
http://phlad.planethalflife.gamespy.com/wiki/index.php/Team_Fortress_Classic

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5600/medicbothib9.jpghttp://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8167/tf2medicqf7.jpghttp://www.fortress-forever.com/ffwiki/images/d/dd/Medic_pic.jpgHeh: http://tinyurl.com/med-costumehttp://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1695/puffysnapeda9.jpg
http://www.fortress-forever.com/media/sniper_render_4.jpghttp://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8136/sniperbothly3.jpghttp://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2093/sniperkh7.gif

Edit: Ha, nice one Jester.

[Firefox11]

OMFG Jester, Srsly.

Also, see how the new TFC Medic is teh best, as well as the new TFC Sniper?
And thanks for posting the sexyness of new model TFC's Scout ;D

[Jester]

Were you wanting these to use their original animations or FF's animations?

In the screenshot above, I have him using the FF animations because the engine has certain sequences it calls to the player that the TFC model doesn't have.

Either can be done though I would suppose, up to you.

[Firefox11]

Hmm I guess it depends.

Which are the animations that the TFC models don't play? Also, if using the originals, do they recover Jimmy legs too? (This may be the determinant factor ;D)

[KubeDawg]

Were you wanting these to use their original animations or FF's animations?

In the screenshot above, I have him using the FF animations because the engine has certain sequences it calls to the player that the TFC model doesn't have.

Either can be done though I would suppose, up to you.

Well if it's not more difficult, then TFC animations, otherwise, FF animations should be fine.

[PartialSchism]

Jimmy Legs GO!!!

[tim_]

scouts with backpacks are awsome

[Jester]

Well I've tried several times using the original animations and they just won't play correctly and there are still several missing that FF uses.

I'm going to have to use the FF anims, which unfortunately means I have to do the rigging and team-colored textures myself:-P

Anyways, should be done today.

[!nF3D4L]

ur too sexy for words man

[KubeDawg]

Jester, you ROCK!

[Jester]

http://www.geocities.com/hlrallyfiles/scoutConv.zip
Take the scout for a spin and let me know what you think before I continue on with the other classes.

[pF]

Haven't tested it (at work), but GG Jester for even taking up the job!

[Jester]

Thanks:)
Unsure why neck is turned sideways at all times, but I think we're going to have to deal with it. I think there are some misnamed bones between the player source itself and the shared animations.

[KubeDawg]

Reminds me of that guy in Men In Black that has an alien under his skin. It's awesome that you can do this type of stuff, but it feels rather unnatural. Ducking, you always look down, and the legs fold like paper plates. It's really weird. Fix the skeleton stuffs and you got yourself a winning model. Not sure how much work would go into that though.

[Jester]

The thin leg thing is from having a low-poly model on a complex skeleton.

May have to drop this project just because the turned head thing.

[KubeDawg]

Here's updated color fix for the blue scout:
kubedawg.com/remap1_160_191_223.vtf

Screenies:

http://kubedawg.com/ff_aardvark0005.jpg
http://kubedawg.com/ff_aardvark0006.jpg

[Paft]

That is rather amusing.

[Jester]

I will have the colors fixed by the time I do all of the classes, but thanks.

As I thought, the source files skeleton was incorrectly named compared to shared animations. I have fixed the turned head thing and I've also altered the leg assignments to make them not be flat, you'll just have to deal with a weird looking knee.

[KubeDawg]

weird looking knee I can deal with :D

[Jester]

EDIT: Check later post.

[KubeDawg]

Muchos gracias.

Edit: Something's wrong with his neck. I'm at work so I don't have screenies, but the left side of his neck is fucked. Not sure if that has to do with his head that was turning sideways previously.

[PartialSchism]

The ragdoll usually stays standing when the scout dies, but i find that pretty hilarious.

[Jester]

http://www.geocities.com/hlrallyfiles/scoutPatch2.zip
Ragdoll fixed along with other minor things I saw. This is just a patch for the model, you will need the materials from my earlier link if you didn't already get it.

As always, report back findings and maybe I can finally get the other classes done if this has no issues.

[KubeDawg]

Ragdoll works great, although I had to turn it from fast to normal on how quickly they disappear. Fantastic job man. Only thing I see wrong is the pulsating neck.

[Jester]

Neck isn't doing that for me. Can you get SS or a recording?

EDIT: Nvm, found&fixed.

[Jester]

Finished every class! Even did classic civilian(not team-colored of course).

I need somewhere to host a 16 MB file :(

[Nelson340]

FileFront?

[KubeDawg]

I'll host em. Email me at kubedog@msn.com.

[Jester]

Thanks Nelson
http://files.filefront.com/TFCplayerszip/;11819097;/fileinfo.html
Some of the classes still look purple-ish even though their materials are blue, dunno why but I'll fix that later.

[Nelson340]

No, thank YOU. Not only did the lower polycounts give me a framerate boost, they also saved my bacon from gfx card crashes.

[KubeDawg]

Jester, if you were in my room right now, I'd kiss you.

[Green Mushy]

I love these models. The medic, sniper, and scout should be hardcoded as FF models!

[elwood]

I haven't checked out this pack, but would it be possible to have the old TFC models done? I was never a fan of the newer/steam models from TFC. :shock:

[Jester]

I liked the older TFC models better than the new ones too, but I think I'll wait awhile to get around to those, these took enough work :-P

[elwood]

sounds like a plan, batman. :mrgreen:

[StrYdeR]

Could i request the RPG be ported from tfc. If at all possible make it look ingame like it did in tfc at fov 120.

[Firefox11]

Jester, you rock, seriously. Might want to make a count of how many people tells you that, like:

My name is Jester, and I rock. People who agree: 9,000+. There's no people who disagree

Only thing I miss is that the ragdolls don't bounce around =/ Oh well, all for a cool looking Scout/Sniper/Soldier/Medic.

[RocKwell]

Awesome job, I think I've been getting a fps boost as well. These should be included as an option to use in the next patch, along with 1st generation tfc, team fortress, and any other fortress game I'm missing, hence the name ... "fortress forever" :) . Make it happen devs!

[Gator-]

Ewww.

I'm sure it will help some people with FPS...but god damn, some of yall need to upgrade sooner or later.

[SmellyCat]

Not when some of us are going to uni soon, where for the first year at least, gaming will be off the cards.

I could do with every FPS boost I can get at the moment - will see what these models are like. :)

[Segundo]

I like the effort but haha I dont want to downgrade back to TFC's models! :)

[Firefox11]

It's not called downgrading.

It's called nostalgia ;P

[Lateralols]

Really really like these, very nice work, and thank you for it.

[Lt Llama]

Awsome stuff Jester. I'm not the biggest customizer myself, but this will be appreciated by many I think. But what about toon? :) Toon + FF = <3.

[Gator-]

Copyrights, anyone?

edit:
Just wanted to point out what dt / 50 told me about it.

[ryu^]

good stuff with the models, i would also appreciate the old tfc model conversion as i never liked the new models. if you find the time that is!

[Credge]

Copyrights, anyone?

edit:
Just wanted to point out what dt / 50 told me about it.

Don't think there's any issue.

[im2cool4uroflolz]

HOLY CRAP ROBOCOP SCOUT.

[Paft]

Ewww.

[immortal]

i want those models!!!!(tfc_newmodels 1)

actually i'd like to know if there is a stupidly easy way of updating TFC models to FF... i have some models slightly different from those... they are cell-shaded and a little bit brighter.
i'd like to see them on FF, at least once, for testing.

[mentalERROR]

Best models are the toon models. Whoever made them is my hero, plain and simple, love these shitz....