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Dr.Satan
02-17-2008, 05:03 AM
Ok guys were getting close and things are going to start moving really fast now...I need you all to start watching the UGC Fortress Forever (http://www.ugcleague.com/home_ff5.cfm) page for news updates as they will be coming out more frequently also please encourage your members to be a little more active on the forums!

GeoKill----->
02-17-2008, 06:11 AM
Would be great if it had an RSS Feed

Dr.Satan
02-17-2008, 08:29 AM
I definitely agree, and I can see if pad can get it set up, but I can't make any guarantee's for now I will try to contact clans and let you guys know when I make an update, but be sure to check once in a while anyway.

Also once the league starts up I will be posting schedules there every Thursday at least.

GeoKill----->
02-17-2008, 07:53 PM
Alright, I will try to check it every day for now

Dr.Satan
02-18-2008, 10:56 PM
Leaders please check the FF leaders thread. I have made a slight change to the map list.

Credge
02-19-2008, 01:30 AM
Could you copy and paste it here perhaps? I'm without leader rights although I am a leader for sYn :((((.

Dr.Satan
02-19-2008, 03:01 AM
Could you copy and paste it here perhaps? I'm without leader rights although I am a leader for sYn :((((.

well that's b/c you haven't posted in the leaders thread!

Credge
02-19-2008, 03:31 AM
Sunshine kisses for all.

[AE] 82694
02-20-2008, 04:46 AM
since your sweet talking us, But remember this is not at all SET IN STONE, everything is still subject to change. I might get reamed for this but.......

Maps will be as follows:

Preseason Week 1: ff_monkey
Preseason Week 2: ff_openfire
Preseason Week 3: ff_dropdown
Regular Season Week 1: ff_siden_b2
Regular Season Week 2: ff_blis_2fort
Regular Season Week 3: ff_startec
Regular Season Week 4: ff_congestus
Regular Season Week 5: ff_derive_b2
Regular Season Week 6: ff_shutdown2
Regular Season Week 7: ff_session
Regular Season Week 8: ff_duality
Regular Season Week 9: TBA
Regular Season Week 10: TBA
Regular Season Week 11: TBA
Regular Season Week 12: TBA
Playoffs Week 1: TBA
Playoffs Week 2: TBA
Playoffs Week 3: TBA

Credge
02-20-2008, 04:49 AM
No need for it. I saw it in the leaders forum =P.

Thanks though sweety pie.

[AE] 82694
02-20-2008, 04:58 AM
No need for it. I saw it in the leaders forum =P.

Thanks though sweety pie.

You make me blush.

Dr.Satan
02-20-2008, 04:30 PM
also don't worry zip...It's posted on the Front of the homepage in a news post so you can copy anywhere!

But like he said...nothing is set in stone!

Dr.Satan
02-22-2008, 12:33 AM
BUMP...yet another update...all clan leaders please check the UGC FF 5v5 Homepage! (http://www.ugcleague.com/home_ff5.cfm)

Credge
02-22-2008, 01:37 AM
Thanks for the update Satan!

GeoKill----->
02-22-2008, 04:36 AM
Oh shit TDA is back

Dr.Satan
02-22-2008, 02:42 PM
Oh shit TDA is back

I know right!

trepid_jon
02-22-2008, 05:45 PM
Aw shit, AWWWWWWWWW SHIT!

March 5th, huh? Gonna cut into GTAIV time. Well, not for my clanless asshole.

Dr.Satan
02-22-2008, 05:50 PM
Gonna cut into GTAIV time.

what? lol

Also join a clan! :lol:

Dr.Satan
03-07-2008, 12:51 AM
Yep they are up...have a look! (http://www.ugcleague.com//home_ff5.cfm)

Gator-
03-07-2008, 01:03 AM
I like them! Sucks that one clan has to have a BYE until another one joins the league :(.

Dr.Satan
03-07-2008, 01:08 AM
I like them! Sucks that one clan has to have a BYE until another one joins the league :(.

Man trust me...getting a clan for a bye was why these didn't come out 30min ago!

Vicious
03-07-2008, 02:15 AM
Psssh. Give it to a clan that lost neh? Not the team with the most points... :P

Dr.Satan
03-07-2008, 03:08 PM
Psssh. Give it to a clan that lost neh? Not the team with the most points... :P

/KBN/ did loose...

Dr.Satan
03-07-2008, 08:38 PM
Leaders please check the leaders forum for a new rule suggestion.

Dr.Satan
03-07-2008, 08:41 PM
I've decided 2 post threads are worthless. I will be posting in this thread any and all updates as opposed to creating new ones each time.

If you don't want to check this all the time, just subscribe to this thread!

Dr.Satan
03-12-2008, 04:52 PM
Ok guys there is a very important post up on the UGC site...please check the news for this! All clans need to read this PRIOR to their matches tonight.

http://ugcleague.com/home_ff5.cfm

Credge
03-12-2008, 05:59 PM
I would also like to add that there is a glitch with the button. That is to say, that, seemingly randomly, the defense will be down... however, the door appears to be closed still. This is only an appearance and is purely client side.

It's only happened to me a few times but I've also been in gathers where it has happened multiple times to players on both sides.

To be accurate, the defenses go down but the door appears to be closed to a person. When the player that is experiencing this dies, it is reset. The players can go through the door still.

Dr.Satan
03-12-2008, 07:19 PM
yeah I've seen that, but can't really do much about it, I just don't want to see clans pulling caps from the FR while D is defending the button cause that would not be fair at all!

Dr.Satan
03-14-2008, 03:47 PM
I know it was late, but it went up with plenty of time...you all really should check the site at least and hour before match time every time...

GeoKill----->
03-14-2008, 11:58 PM
I knew about it, just forgot to mention it

Dr.Satan
03-15-2008, 12:38 AM
lol well I think things went ok anyway!

Week 3 up! (http://www.ugcleague.com//home_ff5.cfm)

Vicious
03-17-2008, 01:20 PM
Is there still a tube glitch in 2.0?

Dr.Satan
03-17-2008, 03:41 PM
Not that I am aware of.

Skanky Butterpuss
03-17-2008, 06:18 PM
no sh4x fixed that for 2.0

Dr.Satan
03-20-2008, 06:07 PM
Schedules are up guys have a look!

Vicious
03-20-2008, 06:27 PM
How are we 1-0? How does anyone have a win/loss?

Credge
03-20-2008, 06:38 PM
How are we 1-0? How does anyone have a win/loss?

We are just that awesome.

Dr.Satan
03-20-2008, 07:17 PM
How are we 1-0? How does anyone have a win/loss?

it must not have fixed it...I'll check them all later and fix them.

Vicious
03-24-2008, 02:55 PM
Not that I'm really complaining, it's nice to see sYn at the top of that list, but you really might wanna fix it before Wednesday:

http://www.ugcleague.com/rankings_ff5.cfm

Dr.Satan
03-24-2008, 03:44 PM
Not that I'm really complaining, it's nice to see sYn at the top of that list, but you really might wanna fix it before Wednesday:

http://www.ugcleague.com/rankings_ff5.cfm

yeah been meaning to get around to that...sry guys I'll try to get it done by tonight.

Dr.Satan
03-28-2008, 09:50 PM
Schedules are up!

Be sure to check the rules page often this week as the OvO rule will be implemented ASAP!

:e0: you know what you gotta do so please help [SNAFU] out and reschedule with them!

Agent Buckshot Moose
03-28-2008, 09:52 PM
OvO rule?

Lol, TFC.

Dr.Satan
03-28-2008, 10:01 PM
OvO rule?

Lol, TFC.

Yep...the leaders voted and it was dam near anonymous that they wanted the rule so it's being implemented.

Agent Buckshot Moose
03-28-2008, 10:04 PM
As I said:

Lol, TFC.

Dr.Satan
03-28-2008, 10:06 PM
idk man...I got pretty tired of going into the base with 3hp after the first fucking match we played!

But that's why the voting is there...if it's a stupid un-needed rule from TFC it probably won't make it, but if it's needed the leaders will make that decision and it will be implemented.

Gator-
03-28-2008, 10:08 PM
What about TFC...

squeek.
03-28-2008, 10:14 PM
What about TFC...
People seem to dislike anything that is associated with "TFC clanstyle play." Some people that is.

Gator-
03-28-2008, 10:33 PM
well this mod is purely based on tfc....of course there are going to be many similarities in the gameplay

Credge
03-28-2008, 10:44 PM
I think those people also don't understand that many of the TFC clanstyle rules are there so it's fair and even for both the offense and the defense.

Dr.Satan
03-31-2008, 03:32 PM
OvO Rule(s) have been added to the FF 5v5 Rules:

http://ugcleague.com/rules_ff5.cfm#8

8.4. NO chasing: [Red team's offensive players continually chase incoming blue offensive players back into their own base, or turning from their directed path to potshot, or vice versa.]

8.5. NO potshots: [Offense shooting offense as they move past each other. This includes successive potshots killing a single player. It does not include occasional knee jerk reactions to the enemy on a few occasions throughout a match. Do not return fire. If you believe potshots are excessive, then take it up with an administrator. Once potshots are returned, and it appears to the reviewing admin that potshooting has been adopted by both teams, neither team may complain.] This includes successive potshots killing a single player. This also includes anything that would damage an offensive runner of the other team including med kits, crowbars, spy pills, caltrops, demo class pipes, rockets, and grenades of any type. It does not include occasional knee jerk.

SO FROM HERE ON OUT OvO IS ILLEGAL!!

Any match in which you feel there has been excessive OvO should be disputed through the proper channels for review.

Update on the front page as well, make sure your teams are aware of the new addition prior to your match this week to avoid disputes.

Gator-
03-31-2008, 03:38 PM
caltrops
They don't exist in this game :)

Skanky Butterpuss
03-31-2008, 04:05 PM
whats about enemy flag carriers? legitimate question

[AE] 82694
03-31-2008, 04:07 PM
Thats being voted on in the UGC leaders forums.

Skanky Butterpuss
03-31-2008, 04:20 PM
coolio, thanks

[AE] 82694
03-31-2008, 05:21 PM
:)

Vicious
03-31-2008, 05:24 PM
Also, Yard D has been voted on as illegal, expect that to be made official by match time.

Dr.Satan
03-31-2008, 06:42 PM
Also, Yard D has been voted on as illegal, expect that to be made official by match time.

lol yes that! I have asked for the rules to be added, but I don't have the access required so hopefully it makes it in but if not by tomorrow I will post the rules in a news post and on here so everyone can read them.

NOTE: This will be a rule for this weeks match...it passed ahead of time so I'm calling it game. Watch for the update so you know what your allowed to / not allowed to do.

And yeah skanky for now O is O period but there is a vote on weather or not to include flag carriers going on right now...I started it b/c I thought the same thing lol. I doubt it will make it into the rules for this match, but we should have a resolution soonish regarding it.

Credge
03-31-2008, 06:44 PM
What about when the flag is in the yard? Is defense allowed then?

Also, what extent can a player now chase? Can I, for example, stop them right before their cap point?

Dr.Satan
03-31-2008, 06:49 PM
well I'll just post the news now so you know...give me about 10min

check the UGC main site.

Credge
03-31-2008, 07:04 PM
Good stuff and good to know!

Thanks!

Agent Buckshot Moose
03-31-2008, 08:56 PM
Well there goes my strategy of playing "initiative defense" by piping the enemy battlements.

Guess I'll hav to figure something else out.

Edit: I still think this is a dumb idea. But oh well.

Dr.Satan
03-31-2008, 09:07 PM
Well there goes my strategy of playing "initiative defense" by piping the enemy battlements.

Guess I'll hav to figure something else out.

Edit: I still think this is a dumb idea. But oh well.

just pipe your own battlements then...

Agent Buckshot Moose
03-31-2008, 09:11 PM
just pipe your own battlements then...

But that's no fun! D:

By the way, check your PMs. It's on a completely unrelated topic.

Dr.Satan
04-04-2008, 05:11 AM
Week 3 is up:

Team Orbital vs. Situation Normal All F'ed Up
Damnocracy vs. AssEater
Eternal Order vs. Kneel Before No One
Goodfellas vs. The Dragon Syndicate
Fortress Extreme vs. BYE

Orbital please be sure to get with [SNAFU] and reschedule you guy's match!

Unfortunately we have lost shit|
GG guys and sorry it didn't work out for you!

That said .fx takes a requested bye to sort out their own internal issues.

Everyone else GL and HF!

Remember NO OvO and NO Yard D!

~ Satan

Dr.Satan
04-06-2008, 07:09 PM
Just wanted to let everyone know that I made a news post to define exactly what the "yard" is on ff_startec.

Vicious
04-07-2008, 12:53 PM
I thought those rules weren't in place till next week?

Gator-
04-07-2008, 01:31 PM
I'm glad this was clarified.

Dr.Satan
04-08-2008, 02:40 PM
I thought those rules weren't in place till next week?

Yard D was instituted last week as was OvO

The other one that has yet to be added to the rules is the one that doesn't go until next week.

Dr.Satan
04-10-2008, 08:28 PM
Leaders, I have posted a thread in the UGC forums that needs your attn. please stop by when you have a moment.

[AE] 82694
04-10-2008, 08:30 PM
You lazy bitch where's the link?:twisted:

Dr.Satan
04-10-2008, 08:45 PM
82694']You lazy bitch where's the link?:twisted:

http://ugcleague.com/forums/index.php

:lol:

DISASSEMBLER
04-10-2008, 09:55 PM
Thats so wrong doc! lol

Dr.Satan
04-10-2008, 09:57 PM
yeah I couldn't help it lol

[AE] 82694
04-10-2008, 10:27 PM
I had already posted in UGC forums anyway.:)

So as usual Doc was late with it.:twisted:

Dr.Satan
04-10-2008, 10:32 PM
82694']
So as usual Doc was late with it.:twisted:

better to be late then early zip!

[AE] 82694
04-11-2008, 12:32 AM
That all depends on what time you gotta get up for work.

Dr.Satan
04-11-2008, 05:27 PM
Ok scheduels are up.

Please check the main page news (http://ugcleague.com/home_ff5.cfm) for instructions / definitions on Yard D for this map!

[AE] 82694
04-11-2008, 09:37 PM
Very good doc you remembered the link.:twisted:

Dr.Satan
04-19-2008, 10:23 PM
I haven't forgotten about your schedules...just had an issue with one of the matches and I'm still cleaning that up...I will get them up ASAP guys!

Dr.Satan
04-20-2008, 08:40 PM
Schedules are finally up, sorry it took so long!

http://www.ugcleague.com//home_ff5.cfm

Dr.Satan
04-21-2008, 12:09 AM
yeah so [sYn] has reformed and converted themselves to /order/ under the leadership of KubeDawg.

Also it seems the UGC site was lying and not showing [e.]'s full roster...they have been scheduled against [SNAFU].

Dr.Satan
04-21-2008, 12:46 AM
For those of you that did not notice...you can change this weeks map and personally I STRONGLY suggest it...

7. League Maps [top]

7.1. All maps to be played in matches are chosen by the UGC admins, and are displayed on the schedule page each week. Clans may however substitute any maps if both clans agree unless it is a title match. Map substitions on a title match require approval of the ladder admin even if both clans agree.

This definitely isn't a title match for any clans. So if you (like every other clan / person does) think this map is gayer then aids...then talk to the other leader and agree on a different map...

Dr.Satan
04-28-2008, 01:10 AM
Ok people first off currently the UGC site is experience some extremely advanced errors that we aren't able of fixing, yet.

So until that is fixed the site is pretty much stuck in limbo...I can't schedule, approve, or make changes to just about anything and I can't make news posts. I am also pretty sure that means you leaders can't do anything either (make changes to schedules or submit matches). SO for now...IF you need to add a person to your roster, YOU NEED TO CONTACT ME either via pm, message left on irc, or post here, email, something...if you can't get a hold of me, go to #ugc-ff on irc and post whatever there AND post it in the leader's forums on ugc (the forums are still ok).

Hopefully this will all be fixed on Monday, but idk for sure so until we do this is how we have to work it.

Now since I can't update the site, these are your schedules (also posted this in the UGC leaders forums):

/KBN/ vs . O `
[AE] vs :e0:
( Goodfellas . ) vs [SNAFU]
/order/ vs [e.]

Please ignore any issues you see with the rankings and what not as again, not able to fix this as of yet.

GL HF and all that!

~ Satan

had to do it satan <3 u--infy

KubeDawg
04-28-2008, 01:39 AM
/order/

Dr.Satan
04-28-2008, 02:51 AM
Leaders it seems (as I suspected) that your access is also not working.

I have set up some temporary roster's in the Leaders Section of the UGC forums. Please contact me if you have any questions or need any help at all.

Dr.Satan
04-28-2008, 02:53 AM
/order/

lol sorry kube...didn't change it in my excel sheet yet!

Thanks infy!

GeoKill----->
04-28-2008, 04:25 AM
Great, I wanted a rematch with AE :twisted:

Dr.Satan
04-28-2008, 04:46 AM
Great, I wanted a rematch with AE :twisted:

lawl should be fun geo!

GeoKill----->
04-28-2008, 04:47 AM
No O engy :D

Dr.Satan
04-28-2008, 04:47 AM
lol shit we're using 5 O engies!

GeoKill----->
04-28-2008, 04:48 AM
*runs away

Nuk3m
04-28-2008, 04:19 PM
oh no I forgot about the infamous 19D engi set up you guys run :-P

[AE] 82694
04-28-2008, 10:46 PM
Do I smell fear?:twisted:

Agent Buckshot Moose
04-29-2008, 12:05 AM
I smell 19 demomen... :O

Dr.Satan
05-01-2008, 12:12 AM
Please report your matches like you normally would!

Nuk3m
05-02-2008, 08:52 PM
What
The
FUck

1 ( Goodfellas . ) 1.000 +4 4 0 4W 1240 170 4
2 /KBN/ 0.833 +4 5 1 1W 1030 510 6
3 . o ` 0.714 +3 5 2 1L 2010 1210 7
4 :e0: 0.571 +1 4 3 1W 1370 1100 7
5 [AE] 0.400 -1 2 3 1L 370 600 5
6 /order/ 0.250 -2 1 3 2L 720 2010 4
7 [SNAFU] 0.000 -4 0 4 4L 180 740 4


wrong!

[AE] 82694
05-02-2008, 10:23 PM
What
The
FUck

1 ( Goodfellas . ) 1.000 +4 4 0 4W 1240 170 4
2 /KBN/ 0.833 +4 5 1 1W 1030 510 6
3 . o ` 0.714 +3 5 2 1L 2010 1210 7
4 :e0: 0.571 +1 4 3 1W 1370 1100 7
5 [AE] 0.400 -1 2 3 1L 370 600 5
6 /order/ 0.250 -2 1 3 2L 720 2010 4
7 [SNAFU] 0.000 -4 0 4 4L 180 740 4


wrong!

See post 83 in this thread. It is already known.:twisted:

Gator-
05-02-2008, 10:45 PM
...i dont see a +5 for us from the goodfellas vs SNAFU

Dr.Satan
05-02-2008, 11:01 PM
...i dont see a +5 for us from the goodfellas vs SNAFU

haven't approved the matches as of yet...it will come. Once everything is set up (rankings, approved matches, next weeks schedules, etc.) I will let you all know.

Dr.Satan
05-03-2008, 12:37 AM
Schedules are up!

( Goodfellas . ) vs :e0:
[e.] vs . O `
/KBN/ vs [AE]
/order/ vs [SNAFU]

/order/ be sure to get with [SNAFU] ASAP
Any other clans wishing to play on a night different then Wed. / Thurs. please take advantage of the scheduling forum and start talking now! You have all week to play (meaning from now til Thursday) so no excuses!

We are running out of clans that haven't faced each other so [AE] gets to play /KBN/ again.

Rankings are mostly fixed with the exception of [SNAFU], [e.], and . o `

For some reason there is an error popping up that I don't have access to fix so the matches those clans played in are not "approved" as of yet. Once they are everything should work itself out. But for now, please bear with me.

ALSO in-case anyone has forgotten:

Man Cannon / Jump Pad


Second order of business that needs addressing is the Man Cannon (Jump Pad):

It has come to my attention that there is definitely some possible exploits with this item. So were going to address that now before any problems arise.

The use of the Man Cannon / Jump Pad to block, bar, or otherwise grief any player will be considered unsportsmanlike and is grounds for forfeiture. This includes, but is not limited to, placing it over entrances to keep an enemy team out of somewhere, placing it over a flag or capture point to stop the enemy from capping, or placing it in a door way and / or hall way to keep the enemy team from advancing. If it is found that your team is in violation of this corrective action will be taken. The action taken will be up to the UGC staff and can potentially include an overturn of the match.

So keep this in mind when building and let's all have a good clean game!

ANY QUESTIONS ASK ME!!!!

GL and HF

~Satan

Nuk3m
05-03-2008, 01:23 AM
yeah were 4-2
not 4-3

Dr.Satan
05-03-2008, 04:48 AM
yeah were 4-2
not 4-3

that's what it says...

Nuk3m
05-03-2008, 03:36 PM
its fixed today finally.

Dr.Satan
05-03-2008, 06:12 PM
lol it was fixed yesterday when I posted that comment...I went through and fixed them all!

Nuk3m
05-03-2008, 06:32 PM
<3

Dr.Satan
05-14-2008, 01:53 AM
schedules are up...sorry for the delay

GL to everyone.

Dr.Satan
05-17-2008, 06:02 PM
Enjoy...I'll be gone all weekend so if there is anything you need please PM me OR leaders check out the contact me thread if you have something urgent (pretty sure I have a cell on there...)

Dr.Satan
05-23-2008, 09:10 AM
Schedule's are up!

If you don't catch it there:

On my front...this weekend is going to be VERY busy for me! In preparation for my upcoming move, my internet will be going down tomorrow afternoon and should be back up late Sunday / early Monday. IF you need something and can't get in touch with anyone else...check the leader's forums for my personal contact info...don't hesitate to use that information if you have any questions and / or concerns.

We are also currently looking for an admin to replace me when I go...IF you are interested in the position, please fill out an application, (http://www.ugcleague.com/adminapplication.cfm) in full, and we will review it.

We currently have a few apps we are looking at, but that doesn't mean the position is filled so don't hesitate to apply!

Dr.Satan
05-31-2008, 11:20 PM
bump for week 14!

!nF3D4L
06-01-2008, 12:07 AM
bump for satans sexyness
















no homo

!nF3D4L
06-07-2008, 03:51 PM
schedules are up as well as a new news update leaders contact me asap!!

http://ugcleague.com/home_ff5.cfm

!nF3D4L
06-08-2008, 03:20 PM
EDIT TO THE NEWS LEADERS CHECK IT OUT ASAP!!

!nF3D4L
06-09-2008, 07:52 PM
another update..... sorry guys..

KubeDawg
06-09-2008, 09:43 PM
Roger that. At first, I thought it wasn't a big deal, but sometimes that cap is simply unavoidable when trying to exit. Ugh, I despise monkey, lets hope this works out heh.

!nF3D4L
06-13-2008, 11:15 AM
TEAM CAPTAINS CHECK UGC LEADERS FORUMS ASAP.... VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT UNLESS YOU WANT ME TO CHOSE THE PLAYOFF MAPS

!nF3D4L
06-27-2008, 04:42 PM
TEAM LEADERS START CHECKING UGC LEADERS FORUMS!!!!! WE ALREADY HAVE TWO THINGS TO LOOK AT

!nF3D4L
07-21-2008, 12:49 AM
LEADERS the first poll is done, we have a new rule invovling class limits. thanks to all the leaders who voted. go check it out
http://ugcleague.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8113

!nF3D4L
07-24-2008, 12:26 AM
LEADERS VOTE NOW FOR GAMESIZE, its between two. u have 14 days

!nF3D4L
07-30-2008, 04:35 PM
i made that poll for you buckshot... so no more complaining

Ihmhi
07-30-2008, 04:57 PM
Hey infy, how about telling us about some of this shit? Class limits?

So we're going back to TFC's glory days of league. :|

Agent Buckshot Moose
07-30-2008, 06:06 PM
i made that poll for you buckshot... so no more complaining

You missed an option ^_______________________________________________^

!nF3D4L
07-30-2008, 07:06 PM
You missed an option ^_______________________________________________^


don't make me come over to geos closet and get u

GeoKill----->
07-30-2008, 07:59 PM
lol I forgot he is still in there

!nF3D4L
08-02-2008, 03:01 AM
OHH YAHH.. UGC will be starting 1 week wednesday.. it can be 2 weeks of the majorty of clans need that time but the league has been on hiatus long enough... its time to get it rollin again... so preseason will start august 13 be there or be square

Skanky Butterpuss
08-02-2008, 05:37 AM
not waiting for when2.1willout? :confused:

!nF3D4L
08-02-2008, 02:09 PM
well i said we would wait a month or 2.1 its been more than a month
so its about time

!nF3D4L
08-11-2008, 04:16 PM
http://ugcleague.com/home_ff5.cfm

^^ a long read.. but u need to read it!!

elwood
08-11-2008, 06:14 PM
Bring A Friend- indeed

Seeing as Preseason doesn't count to anything we will have a bring have bring a friend preseason matches. That is you can bring somebody who has never played in a match before and is not rostered to try out the ugc style gameplay. if the 'friend' breaks some sportsmanship rule (like ovo, etc.) the teams should be encouraged to correct and educate in spirit of good sportsmanship, introduction to league play and community building, rather than bitch/dispute/punish/etc.

For the last time UGC teams, but mainly [ gr. illogicality- ], myself as well as my mother will not play in any preseason UGC 5v5 match. So please stop asking.

Thank you.

pF
08-11-2008, 06:24 PM
but she pwns!

!nF3D4L
08-11-2008, 06:31 PM
what about your grandmother or your father

fataL`
08-19-2008, 12:55 PM
WE WANT SCHEDULE!

padawan
11-23-2008, 07:19 PM
I am pleased to announce that illogicality- has joined UGC staff and will be assisting with the Fortress Forever ladder.

We will be taking a league bye on Wednesday November 26 for Thanksgiving and for playoff preparation.

We are working together to finalize all of the outstanding issues prior to finalization of rankings and final seeding of teams for playoffs. Your playoff grid will be ready shortly.

We first want to ask all FF team leaders to visit the UGC FF leaders forums and post your team's votes for 3 of the 5 choices of playoff maps. Your prompt participation in voting will allow the maps to be chosen as soon as possible so teams may begin preparing. The poll will close on Wednesday Nov 26 so come and get your votes in.

This is also a good time to remind you all that per our rule 4.2, as discussed with team leaders and voted on at the end of last season, rosters have been locked for playoffs and teams are no longer allowed to make roster changes or additions at this time. Teams are however allowed up to TWO roster additions through the day before the first playoff match. Such changes and additions must be performed through a UGC admin. The two allowed roster additions must be completed by 11:59pm EST December 2. For further details on this rule please visit the UGC site or ask myself, illogicality, or infy.

And lastly (but not leastly) we wish to extend a very warm welcome to our two new teams, .AI and {KSC}

GeoKill----->
11-23-2008, 09:44 PM
Lets hope Illo won't be biased with certain individuals/clans :)

SiSCoS
11-23-2008, 09:45 PM
Lets hope Illo won't be biased with certain individuals/clans :)

i second that


bad choice IMO
If you want someone who is not biased, give squeek a call!

tim_
11-23-2008, 10:00 PM
yeah i hope he isn't biased towards my good friend gator and his wonderful clan the GoodFellas

illogicality-
11-23-2008, 11:55 PM
Wow, thanks for the vote of confidence geo and siscos.

I promise to admin with nothing less than the utmost integrity and honesty and will leave personal feelings/opinions aside.

Give me a chance.

GeoKill----->
11-24-2008, 12:06 AM
I promise to admin with nothing less than the utmost integrity and honesty and will leave personal feelings/opinions aside.
Thats all I ask for

illogicality-
11-24-2008, 12:25 AM
I wouldn't have it any other way. That wouldn't be fair to the league or players.

Don't worry :)

Hoopajoo
11-24-2008, 12:31 AM
I like this new illo tbh.

teh_rape
11-24-2008, 01:01 AM
that's how he always was. congrats illo

[AE] 82694
11-24-2008, 11:41 AM
I think he should be just fine.

!nF3D4L
11-25-2008, 12:35 AM
congrats to illo.. im still around ( but not really) this is the first time i have had more than 5 minutes on the computer in a long time.. im really sorry for being MIA family issues and school and shit has gone to hell. im still fairly inactive but i will be atleast stopping by to say hey a little more often.. i trust illo to do an amazing job cause hes illo..

illogicality-
11-25-2008, 03:49 AM
congrats to illo.. im still around ( but not really) this is the first time i have had more than 5 minutes on the computer in a long time.. im really sorry for being MIA family issues and school and shit has gone to hell. im still fairly inactive but i will be atleast stopping by to say hey a little more often.. i trust illo to do an amazing job cause hes illo..

Hey Infy - Thanks for the vote of confidence :) I really hope that all is well for you and RL calms down for you. Give me a shout if you need anything (with which I can help).

Dr.Satan
10-15-2009, 06:09 PM
Leauge update posted on the FF Home Page (http://www.ugcleague.com/home_ff5.cfm).

GeoKill----->
10-16-2009, 04:05 AM
:e0: Will join up, Just need to settle/work a few things and we shall be set. :D

GenghisTron
10-16-2009, 07:20 AM
Good news, about time to find a clan!

Hammock
10-16-2009, 03:02 PM
Leauge update posted on the FF Home Page (http://www.ugcleague.com/home_ff5.cfm).

I got a simple question.

Why does the previous week's match need to be reported before the schedule for the next week's match is announced?

I know one of the biggest complaints about the final season was that sometimes the schedule was posted only a day or two before the matches. We couldn't scrim other clans because we didn't know if the team we were scriming would be the team we were playing. Plus coordinating with team captains was difficult with only a day or two.

If you wait for the slackers to report and stuff, you'll inevitabley have situations like this.

Does the scores of the last round really determine into the factoring of who you're playing next? Aren't all clans going to have an equal shot at one an another?


Why can't you schedule things 2 weeks in advance? For example:

Week 1 and Week 2 schedules are posted to start off. The day after the "Final Day to play" for week one, post week 3's schedule. Then the day after the "Final day to play" for week 2, post week 4's schedule... and so forth.

That way you don't have an entire season scheduled. You still have the ability to allow for new clans to enter since it won't throw off your scheduling, and nobody will have to worry about late scheduling.

Dr.Satan
10-16-2009, 05:22 PM
Because the scheduling is done by a wins/loss/forfeits etc.

I'll not go into the whole formula (yes there is one), but essentially:

your try to schedule winners vs winners and losers vs losers also forfeit wins go with other forfeit wins as do the clans that forfeited.

So if you don't have the stats from the week before that's really hard to do. And can end up being very unfair. Also though, the way I did it in S1 was that I idle'd in every clans IRC chan all the time (and am currently doing that), and if they hadn't given me the report I bugged the shit out of them til they did. I think the only time I was ever late on getting schedules out actually happened b/c I forgot them (think I was drunk tbh :confused:) and that's not gonna be a problem b/c if all 4 FF admins are afk, we have bigger problems :mrgreen:

Rutabeggar
10-16-2009, 06:03 PM
What if all 4 admins are drunk? :mrgreen:

Ricey
10-16-2009, 06:19 PM
What if all 4 admins are drunk? :mrgreen:

Should be more worried about me and tr drinkin and playing the matches.

Dr.Satan
10-16-2009, 06:35 PM
What if all 4 admins are drunk? :mrgreen:

then it's a party!

Hammock
10-16-2009, 07:29 PM
Because the scheduling is done by a wins/loss/forfeits etc.

I'll not go into the whole formula (yes there is one), but essentially:

your try to schedule winners vs winners and losers vs losers also forfeit wins go with other forfeit wins as do the clans that forfeited.

So if you don't have the stats from the week before that's really hard to do. And can end up being very unfair. Also though, the way I did it in S1 was that I idle'd in every clans IRC chan all the time (and am currently doing that), and if they hadn't given me the report I bugged the shit out of them til they did. I think the only time I was ever late on getting schedules out actually happened b/c I forgot them (think I was drunk tbh :confused:) and that's not gonna be a problem b/c if all 4 FF admins are afk, we have bigger problems :mrgreen:

So then the results of a regular season (pre-play-offs) is a manipulated result, I did not know this.

I always wondered why results had to be in before the next schedule was up.

*Edit* I just looked at the rosters.

[milkwood]
Gator, Exo, Spoon, Killu

I must have missed something pretty big in the past 2 months! Have spoon and exo reconciled? or has hell just frozen over?

I can't wait to see the new 2.4 FF I should be getting my internet back next week at the latest

Dr.Satan
10-30-2009, 06:34 PM
update!

http://www.ugcleague.com/home_ff5.cfm

GenghisTron
10-30-2009, 07:30 PM
That's great and all, but you might want to talk to Warpig about his people skills, I've openly seen him insulting and bashing people in pub servers (Including myself). I've never seen anything but awesome people from UGC, but this one makes me scratch my head. Otherwise, that's good news, can't wait to play some competitive fortress :)

pF
10-31-2009, 01:36 AM
2 full matches might be stretching some people's time budget - especially if you count the whole set up time and everything into it. Still, good to see things going forward!

slamdunk
10-31-2009, 06:48 PM
it looks like fair with 2 full matches.. But if there is no ping issue, maybe 1 match would be enough. :)

Dr.Satan
10-31-2009, 09:08 PM
ye, I considered doing 1 match for US v US or EU v EU matches, but for consistency purposes, I opted for it to be league wide regardless of the matchups.

Also I know that's a lot of time, but hopefully your clan leaders are scheduling with each other and are allotting for that time appropriately that there won't be any problems, I doubt it...but that's the idea in theory.

Mikael_hs
11-01-2009, 02:48 PM
What if we (europe) play every match on the same server when were playing against each other? What, then, is the point of playing two whole matches, on the same server, on the same map? Consistency, maybe; superflous, maybe?

Dr.Satan
11-01-2009, 09:07 PM
What if we (europe) play every match on the same server when were playing against each other? What, then, is the point of playing two whole matches, on the same server, on the same map? Consistency, maybe; superflous, maybe?

then you play both on the same server? It doesn't matter to me, but the reason we do 2 separate server's is so that one clan can not make an accusation that another received an unfair advantage. So if you choose to forfeit your server choice, then so be it...but that still doesn't change the fact that a US/EU matchup should be played this way. And I just like things to be the same for people so it's easier to know what to expect.

biohaZ
11-02-2009, 02:02 AM
its a bad idea imo. It's already hard enough to play against euro's with the time differences, and now we have to play a a match for a hour? plus consider the hour its gonna take to set up! i just see people getting bored of playing the same map for so long, and having people not being able to field enough!

Dr.Satan
11-02-2009, 07:49 AM
If this were any of our TFC leagues you would be playing two full 30min rounds. How is playing 4 - 15min one's any different?

Also this league is designed to be as forgiving as possible. You, as leaders, should have your choice of anytime between Wednesday and Monday to schedule a match that you can all be happy with and field enough people in.

And there are TONS of rules set forth to ensure that clans are ready to play at match time and that things progress properly. If it's taking your opponent an hour to get ready for a 15min match then dispute them and they will get a forfeit loss and *hopefully* learn their lesson.

We didn't just toss this out of our asses either, we though about this for a long time and bounced it off of quite a few guys before deciding to go with this idea.

Edit: Do you think increasing the player cap would help?

biohaZ
11-02-2009, 12:26 PM
i dont think player cap will help much... i guess we can just try it out and see how it works, but i dont think that should be enforce if you are playing US vs. US etc etc...

Mikael_hs
11-02-2009, 02:16 PM
yeah I think that one should allow for playing just 1 map if both clans agree on it. What matters is win or loose, not what way the teams decide a fair game is. However if they cant agree then yes, 2 times same map, each on "their" server.

Easy as that :)

Hammock
11-02-2009, 02:46 PM
I think you people are missing the point that Satan has already stated.

In the first 3 seasons it was 2x30 minute rounds 1 map. This worked because of the 5v5 format, which allowed simultaneous O and D, so ya if you played a 5v5 match US vs EU then it would be totally fair, both teams running O and both teams running D and eachother's servers.

But now that it's 4v4 it's just got split up. 4x15 minute still is 60 minutes. But now each team plays 1 round of O and their server, and the other teams server, as well 1 round of D on each server. It's still 60 minutes so nothing has really changed.

I think calling it "2 matches" is sorta scaring people. It's still 1 match just technically 4 pickup segments in length.

Also splitting up your offensive and defensive rounds gives your team a chance to talk and discuss possible change in strats, a short regrouping period is always nice. As well if you had more than 4 people present you have an easier time letting everyone on the game play, and play to their strengths better.

slamdunk
11-02-2009, 03:50 PM
Hammock i think the problem is playin the same map 60 mins..

Hammock
11-02-2009, 04:36 PM
I'm not sure what you EU guys were doing in past leagues, but we were already playing 60 minutes on one map. 2x30 = 60, 4x15 still = 60. We might have lowered it to 25 at some point but that's still only 10 minutes less than a full 60 minutes.

I'm not sure what the big deal is. You'd play the first 2 rounds back to back, then take a 5 minute break, then play the next 2 rounds back to back on the other server.

Dr.Satan
11-02-2009, 05:50 PM
I'm not sure what you EU guys were doing in past leagues, but we were already playing 60 minutes on one map. 2x30 = 60, 4x15 still = 60. We might have lowered it to 25 at some point but that's still only 10 minutes less than a full 60 minutes.

I'm not sure what the big deal is. You'd play the first 2 rounds back to back, then take a 5 minute break, then play the next 2 rounds back to back on the other server.

<3 Hammock! What he said is exactly correct.

biohaZ
11-02-2009, 10:36 PM
Look what happend to the last seasons of UGC though? .. lets say a top tier clan faces a lower tier clan... do you thin they want to play 4 rounds of that bullshit? Its gonna be like beating a dead horse over and over again... lol .. i dont know, its just my opinion maybe others dont agree.

GenghisTron
11-03-2009, 12:30 AM
That's a good point... I think we just need to wait until there's more clans and then we can have more concise skill divisions...

biohaZ
11-03-2009, 02:12 AM
I think you need to just start preseason now, just so clans feel like there getting somewhere, and make up schedules/rules throughout preseason and we can all vote on it or something. Ive heard rumors about 2 divisions? IMO not a very good idea at all, theres not enough clans for that right now. i think OGL/STA style is the best! that is all!

Dr.Satan
11-03-2009, 07:01 AM
I think you need to just start preseason now, just so clans feel like there getting somewhere, and make up schedules/rules throughout preseason and we can all vote on it or something. Ive heard rumors about 2 divisions? IMO not a very good idea at all, theres not enough clans for that right now. i think OGL/STA style is the best! that is all!

that's not a rumor, it's posted on the front page...and we have plenty of clans, there are currently 15 clans signed up. That's more that enough to run 2 divisions off of. Especially when you take into consideration the skill gap. Which plays to this:

Look what happend to the last seasons of UGC though? .. lets say a top tier clan faces a lower tier clan... do you thin they want to play 4 rounds of that bullshit? Its gonna be like beating a dead horse over and over again... lol .. i dont know, its just my opinion maybe others dont agree.

With 2 divisions, that won't happen. And either way, if we went back to the old way of doing things, it would still be an hour of getting hammered! NOTHING HAS CHANGED except that the timelimit per round dropped from 30min-15min to allot for the team switch. There isn't even going to be a break set in the rules, it's the 3min pre-match between rounds with a 10min break between matches to allow for everyone to switch servers.

WarPig
11-03-2009, 12:24 PM
with time limit dropped as well down to 15 its not a team being hammered for 30 min they kind of get a break when round ends and maybe can refigure themselves out.

Regardless if they are not up to par whoever they vs's then yes they will get beat up each round but thats part of league play, thats the competition.
If people are scared of losing or whatnot league play is not the place for them.

Rutabeggar
11-03-2009, 02:30 PM
Who is determining what clans play in each division? I would think that you would run a preseason to determine the divisions...

Dr.Satan
11-03-2009, 09:26 PM
Who is determining what clans play in each division? I would think that you would run a preseason to determine the divisions...

we're going to...

raum
11-04-2009, 03:43 PM
with time limit dropped as well down to 15 its not a team being hammered for 30 min they kind of get a break when round ends and maybe can refigure themselves out.


that makes 4x15 useful, fair and reasonable

traxamillion
11-05-2009, 05:42 PM
1 division is fine

Dr.Satan
11-05-2009, 10:17 PM
UGC schedules are up!!

I know this is really short notice, but try to make the matchups. This week is just a pre-run so there isn't going to be any points for/against clans.

I'm heading out for the night, so if you have ?'s just pm me or grab another ff admin in #ugc-ff on gamesurge.

Also I know the post says rules are updated...they aren't as of right now, but should be by the end of the night, so just keep checking in.

http://www.ugcleague.com/home_ff5.cfm

Dr.Satan
12-17-2009, 09:06 PM
for those of you who don't check anywhere else in the world...

Ok so in light of some recent issues, we have added the following changes to the FF Config:


Added class restrictions

demo - 1
HW - 1
Pyro - 1
Sniper - 1
Engineer - 2
maxrate has been adjusted to 30000
maxcmdrate has been adjusted to 100
servercfgfile now points to the correct UGC Config
removed the rcon password line
and, if you haven't updated in a while, tv_maxrate has been adjusted to 0


Be sure you have updated your sever BEFORE playing this week's match!

~ Satan

You can dl that here(click) (http://www.ugcleague.com/files/configs/ugc_ff4.rar)