What kind of music are you into... ?

[o_sh4x]

Originally Posted by otiz

What's wrong with you? You think people only make art to make money? I feel for you, I really do. Even George Michael once said he wanted to give his albums but the label wouldnt let him.

lol comon, his label can not say yes. Big labels are corporations, their first and only concern is making more profit. I wouldn't wanna have shares in your corporation

As for George Michael wanting to give his album. Good for him, as long as he has what he needs to survive, I don't see the problem with free art at all.

I don't think ppl only make art to make money. Why would I think that? I do music for nothing right now, because I have another job. I spend a couple thousands to build a studio and record music for my pleasure, to make art, without making any profit. All I'm saying is that if you're an artist and you sell your art, it doesn't make you commercial. Also, if you're an artist full time, you will need money to survive.

[o_otiz]

You would think that because you fucking said so! Read your post.

edit: Oh and the George thing... just an example. I know the labels won't give the album and neither did I say that.

[o_sh4x]

Originally Posted by otiz

You would think that because you fucking said so! Read your post.

edit: Oh and the George thing... just an example. I know the labels won't give the album and neither did I say that.

Ok I read my post and I don't know what you're talking about. Maybe quote the part you're relating to, that's how ppl do.

[o_lithium]

Let's all relax and listen to Hank the cowboy who sings about little jesoos

[o_otiz]

Originally Posted by Sh4x

And I understand that they're making it to sell it, OF COURSE they do. Just like every fucking band in the world that makes an album. They wanna sell it, otherwise they wouldnt do one in the first place.

Here you go. And yes, I know how chord progession works.

[o_sh4x]

Originally Posted by spud

Hehe thought i'd say that to raise some hairs.

But aye, commerical music = music that sells. Good and bad.
That was what I was on about.

I had to rebuke your comment because I listen to stuff by artists who release music for free and are not out to make their fortune through geting a mega hit single.

They make music for the joy of music and getting rich from it doesn't really enter the equation.

That = non-commerical music.

Ok well that's 2 different conceptions of what commercial music means.

There's just one thing I'd like to point out about your conception, I'm not saying it's wrong or anything, I'm just curious as to how you see it.

If you only listen to bands that make music for free, that means they are all part time bands that have other jobs to survive. (unless they won the loto or have rich parents). So you're missing on all full time bands that need to make some kind of money out of their art to survive. That's alot of bands I'm thinking. Aren't you limiting your musical experience for something that shouldn't really be a concern in the first place, money?

edits: grammar

[o_sh4x]

Originally Posted by otiz

Here you go. And yes, I know how chord progession works.

Ok, sell it, like in... a good way to distribute an album.
So replace every "sell" with "distribute" if you want, cause that's what I meant. Blame my poor english, it's not my primary language.

[o_otiz]

Distributing is entirely different. Nowadays you can distribute through the internet by posting on various forums for example, so you don't even need a label. So it's quite possible to record an album and distribute it for free.

[o_sh4x]

Originally Posted by otiz

Distributing is entirely different. Nowadays you can distribute through the internet by posting on various forums for example, so you don't even need a label. So it's quite possible to record an album and distribute it for free.

Personnaly I wouldn't do that for a simple reason, I like an album as a whole. Not just the music digitalised on my computer, but also the package, the art that comes with it, etc. It's a peice of art alltogheter.

you're right it's possible to distribute an album with minimal fees by internet. You can just make a free website with one of those free web host and link to a torrent you seed.

[o_otiz]

If you want to distribute as an album there are ways too, but not entirely free. Just skip going to sony (or any big label) because they will want to marketize and commercialize it to get more income into their pockets.
I know a few bands that go through a local distributor and make the cover/package with their own money. Then sell it for a low amount, just enough to get a bit back for the money spent making it.

[o_spud]

Originally Posted by Sh4x

Ok well that's 2 different conceptions of what commercial music means.

There's just one thing I'd like to point out about your conception, I'm not saying it's wrong or anything, I'm just curious as to how you see it.

If you only listen to bands that make music for free, that means they are all part time bands that have other jobs to survive. (unless they won the loto or have rich parents). So you're missing on all full time bands that need to make some kind of money out of their art to survive. That's alot of bands I'm thinking. Aren't you limiting your musical experience for something that shouldn't really be a concern in the first place, money?

edits: grammar

Ah, now, I never said that I listen exlusively to 'uncommerical' music. If I elaborate, I would have to say that the majority of my music collection consists of artists who are not very well known and typically 'underground' in their music genres. Quite often these people do sell enough of their music to earn a living. Sometimes it is a hobby for them as they do other things for an income.

I guess in a way I more detest big music labels and the way they run the music indtustry. I much prefer the independant artist who gets their cd's out themselves or through small specialised labels.

Anyway.. Isn't music grand?