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Old 04-25-2010, 11:03 PM   #21
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You're missing my point (again). I didn't introduce gay rights to talk about gay rights, I introduced that topic to compare you to the Neo-conservatives who wish to impose their view on the rest of society. That's what you're trying to do. You're trying to impose your view of morality on the rest of the population.

It was an anecdote, I used it to support my position that you're a moral authoritarian.
The whole point of democracy is to allow people to impose ideals on the rest of society. Nazis, neo-cons, Democrats, Greeks, Labour Party, they all do the same! What would we need a representative government if the government cannot force people to do things? It is impossible to discuss politics unless we agree that it is okay to do so. Otherwise, we are limiting ourselves to a philosophical discourse.
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Old 04-25-2010, 11:06 PM   #22
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We don't live in a Democracy. The only thing Democratic about our system, is that we elect representatives. That's it.

Whoever told you we lived in a Democracy lied to you.
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Old 04-26-2010, 04:16 PM   #23
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How is that a better message to deliver? All that is saying is that 'you don't physically have the capability to become strong (because of who you are), so you should just give up!'.

That's hardly a more desirable outcome.

How about a much more ethical approach, and let reckless people be reckless. How about we realize that every individual is sovereign, and they have a right to self-ownership, and thus, should be free to harm themselves as much as they want, as long as they don't harm someone else in the process?

In other words, your right to punch me in the face ends where my face begins.
Dude... it was an obviously sarcastic response to another one of Battery's piss-poor arguments.
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Old 04-26-2010, 05:59 PM   #24
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Old 04-26-2010, 06:58 PM   #25
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And I will tell you this: I choose not to vote against gay rights because I believed our country should give the idea a try. If, in the future, gay rights prove to be a mistake, I will not hesitate cast the votes to ban gay rights. IMO, the so-call gay rights are not a the kind of rights people are born with. It has to be maintained by gay people through socially responsible actions and political capital.
I smell a bandwagon... it smells nasty, like gorilla balls. While we are throwing around rights, do you think weed should be illegal? or do you think it should be illegal because the government says it should be illegal?

Now what the funny part is, more people visit the emergency room because of weed, than anabolic steroids. Weed was ranked in the double digits, while steroids were listed in the triple. Don't remember the number, but it was far apart.

Also, you sound like a tool.

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