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Old 09-25-2008, 02:30 PM   #21
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you like cz2 as you have been privvy to its transformation and are subject to group think....from a "fun" map perspective it still sucks balls, and the bailing of players from a server as it turns to this map demonstrates this.

no one wants to play it.

think of it as the new microsoft ads with gates and seinfeld - best intentions, terrible executions.
group think? that barely happened with cz2, it was mostly jons idea. Ill agree with you however, maps like avanti, cornfield, and palermo are needed more. Those are the super fun ones in my opinion.
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Old 09-25-2008, 02:42 PM   #22
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some of the most boring pub maps ever like rock2 in TFC)

watch your mouth, that is one of the greatest maps ever, i only hope i do it justice, when im able to get on my computer.
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Old 09-25-2008, 03:06 PM   #23
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Greenmushy is working on a map I'm not sure we can talk about yet, but I sure hope it gets finished soon. I freaking love it.
If you are talking about the one that starts with f, I think we are the only two that liked it. We ruined it for everyone else or something
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Old 09-25-2008, 03:12 PM   #24
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If you are talking about the one that starts with f, I think we are the only two that liked it. We ruined it for everyone else or something
Ya that's the one, I haven't gotten to play it since he did a couple revisions to it, but I'm not surprised I'm in the minority of people liking that map. Since I also seem to be in the minority of hating many maps everyone else likes. But I really like the concept of that map, it's small (so you're never far from the action), soo fast paced (everyone in any class is usefull for offense), and it's quite linear. <-- My kind of map
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Old 09-25-2008, 03:19 PM   #25
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Oh, I completely agree. As I said, I think we just ruined it for the other team. Hopefully the tweaks will fix that.
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Old 09-26-2008, 12:03 AM   #26
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watch your mouth, that is one of the greatest maps ever, i only hope i do it justice, when im able to get on my computer.
Sorry, I could fall to sleep during a public match on it.

Check out that 10def vs 10def action! :/
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Old 09-26-2008, 05:20 AM   #27
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Sorry, I could fall to sleep during a public match on it.

Check out that 10def vs 10def action! :/
Agreed. People somehow seem to enjoy it though.
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Old 09-26-2008, 07:46 AM   #28
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I cannot tell you the amount of times i have seen a populated server just die after it switches to cz2 in ff - even the new cz2.
dunno if the map makes the people quit or the fact that they simply dont like playing capture&hold-style.
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Old 09-26-2008, 11:49 PM   #29
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Agreed. People somehow seem to enjoy it though.
The moment I played Rock2 for the first time in TFC, I loved it. Simply because of the whole "Nerve Gas Release" thing they had going on, I loved it. The excitement of getting the suits first or diving into the water the last second...

Cz2. I loved it in TFC and, as a small child back then, didn't get why it wasn't played much. I still don't really understand today why it's disliked to some. Oh well, you're always gonna have haters.
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Old 09-27-2008, 12:11 AM   #30
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The moment I played Rock2 for the first time in TFC, I loved it. Simply because of the whole "Nerve Gas Release" thing they had going on, I loved it. The excitement of getting the suits first or diving into the water the last second...
I like that bit too. But, that's only... .05% of the map. 10 seconds of scrambling with 20 minutes of awfulness isn't my idea of a fun map.

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Exactly. Some haters are productive/helpful, though, and some are just there to hate.
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Old 09-27-2008, 01:05 PM   #31
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I like that bit too. But, that's only... .05% of the map. 10 seconds of scrambling with 20 minutes of awfulness isn't my idea of a fun map.


Exactly. Some haters are productive/helpful, though, and some are just there to hate.
??? rock2 is many peoples favorite map from the TFC days. even without the nerve gas I like the map.
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Old 09-27-2008, 01:15 PM   #32
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Rock2 is the kind of map where you need people who actually LIKE the map to be able to play it and enjoy it.

I've seen those DvD games collapse when 1 person grabs the key.... Especially if you've got a couple of people who actually know the map, and have a little bit of skill(concing REALLY helps). It ended up with chaos. Total, naked, merciless, chaos! I loved it!
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Old 09-27-2008, 07:59 PM   #33
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I liked rock2 b/c it was unique from the other maps, great dm pub map, but gameplay did suck a bit. Unless it becomes more O friendly

Something like rock2_2way_r

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Old 09-27-2008, 08:20 PM   #34
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We ruined it for everyone else or something
hammock fucking ruined it, the bastard. he ruined my life and made me cry too


but anyway, i think cz2 is fun most of the time, but sometimes you get on a terrible team (in a pub) and its pretty excruciatingly bad. but that goes with any map, so i dunno.
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