Progress? What's Progress? - Page 12

Lost · 01-07-2007, 01:12 AM

LOL, it was a good burn, plus the fact that he said he didn't really think the message would be relayed.

Lost · 01-07-2007, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by paranoidkirb

I just noticed something in the video. At about 4:20, when the spy does his feign-cloak thing, he drops a knife. Is that intentional to make the cloaking obvious or is that something that needs to be fixed?

When you die, you drop your current weapon, so he's basically throwing out a corpse to make other players think he's dead and drops whatever weapon he has out.

Circuitous · 01-07-2007, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Lost

LOL, it was a good burn, plus the fact that he said he didn't really think the message would be relayed.

Sigh. I dunno why Phish dislikes me so much. I've always been nice to him.

o_paranoidkirb · 01-07-2007, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lost

When you die, you drop your current weapon, so he's basically throwing out a corpse to make other players think he's dead and drops whatever weapon he has out.

Yes. I do know that. But that's not what I was pointing out. The dead engy dropped a knife. A knife.

PHISH · 01-07-2007, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Circuitous

Sigh. I dunno why Phish dislikes me so much. I've always been nice to him.

oh I was just making a quick goof comment, it was just me bein a smartass and shouldn't have been taken as an answer of any kind. It had no relation to your specific request nor do I know why he pasted that to you hehe, but thats how irc goes. Nothing was really directed or meant in it just to be clear.

Circuitous · 01-07-2007, 01:49 AM

If the "sigh" in italics (and spelled out) didn't properly indicate it, I'm not being serious. Or you're not serious either.

SEE THAT'S THE TROUBLE WITH SARCASM WHEN DOES IT END.

<3

o_salo · 01-07-2007, 03:04 AM

it's reassuring to see a variety of different devs back to posting on the forums.

Jiggles · 01-07-2007, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by paranoidkirb

I just noticed something in the video. At about 4:20, when the spy does his feign-cloak thing, he drops a knife. Is that intentional to make the cloaking obvious or is that something that needs to be fixed?

Yeah, I've noted that too. I'm not sure if it needs fixing, though. On one hand, a small discrepency like that rewards the very observant. On the other, it's more obvious when a big weapon should be dropped like the AC or RPG, so that might be a bit unfair.

o_ihmhi · 01-07-2007, 03:17 AM

Per the advice of Crayola and nodnarb I am posting this in this thread from another one as it apparantly has a better chance of being answered by the devs.

In the recently released video two SGs are apparantly sabotaged and fire at one another. I have some questions regarding sabotage.

= = = = = =

1. A dispenser is placed within firing range of a SG. The only enemy in the room is a Engineer. A Spy sabotages the SG and then activates the sabotage. Presumably the SG fires on the Engineer until he is dead. Does the SG also fire on the dispenser?

2. Similar situation, but there are two SGs. After the sabotaged SG goes hostile and clears out a room, will it fire on the "opposing" SG?

3. Two SGs, similar situation: will the "clean" SG fire on the sabotaged SG?

4. If FF is off and a SG has the sabotage activated, will the enemies be able to attack their own SG?

5. Will the engineer be able to damage his own gear with FF off?

6. Follow up to question 3: if a sabotaged SG will be attacked by a non-sabotaged SG, will two sabotaged SGs not attack one another (essentially being on the same "team), or are the sabotages mutually exclusive and they will proceed to attack one another?

= = = = = =

I read through the community F.A.Q. and these questions were not addressed. Therefore I am asking them here so that I may make the additions to the F.A.Q.

Circuitous · 01-07-2007, 03:48 AM

1. In the video you can see one of the SGs attacking a friendly Dispenser after being hijacked.

2. Yeah.

3.4.5. Dunno.

6. Sabotaged SGs attack each other, as demonstrated in the video.

o_ihmhi · 01-07-2007, 05:20 AM

Yeah though I noticed the SGs were attacking one another but they did not receive visible damage (you know, sparking and such like a damaged SG) and they did not die when it looked like they received more than enough damage to die. I guess question #7 would be:

7. Was the two SGs not killing one another in the video a glitch or something?>

Circuitous · 01-07-2007, 05:22 AM

But they exploded?

Edit: Nope, they didn't. Weird.

o_paft · 01-07-2007, 05:43 AM

So many petty questions, give it a rest. ; ) Clean your eyes before you watch the video. Is it totally unbearable not knowing the in's and out's of everything? All (minor) queries will be answered upon playing.

Jiggles · 01-07-2007, 06:13 AM

Yeah, the sgs aren't coded to be hostile to each other -- that is, they'll shoot each other, but won't take damage with FF off. That'll most likely change.

o_ihmhi · 01-07-2007, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Paft

So many petty questions, give it a rest. ; ) Clean your eyes before you watch the video. Is it totally unbearable not knowing the in's and out's of everything? All (minor) queries will be answered upon playing.

Paft for someone with 1,300+ posts you should know how the forum works by now.

The Dev Team puts out a media release, and everyone on the forums spends the next four months or so until the next one analyzing every frame and every pixel until we have exhausted all of our petty questions. Then the whining about the lack of new media and dev journals resumes until another media release comes out. d:

o_golfisfun · 01-07-2007, 09:34 AM

hm...i hope this comes out in the next couple of months i keep watching that video everyday! I cant wait to be in a FF clan!

o_guy incognito · 01-07-2007, 03:36 PM

The medic doing the immunity thing wont make much of a difference on Pub servers, so thats fine, heh..

Oh happy day, quite enjoy the way you've worked around the feign...

though, a cloaked person isn't all that hard to spot if your looking for it... which might result in alot of ass-handage.

Like, in QTF/TFC if someone fell for the feign, then great, they go past you and you get up and shank them, but this you drop a body, but by rights they should see the blurry guy running down the hall...

Also... I be torn, I really like the idea of messing with the SG's, as you know a large part of being a spy is to be the bain of a Engy's exsistence... but it's sort of... the spy didn't lose an ability yet he gets a new one kind of thing seems a little unfair.

It's just if you look at how badass Mr.Spy is, everyones gonna want to play him, and he used to be a class that more or less 3 people in a 20 player game would play... It's always quite embarasing to brush by another disguised spy

Thats my incorrectly strung together two cents, but on the other hand... released as it is, would still stop me from sleeping untill I was a zombie, like the old QTF did

o_catzeyes93 · 01-07-2007, 03:39 PM

Cons: Not crazy about the hud or the crosshair.
Pros: Love love the new pipe gun and the pipes! Good jorb on that! schweet! Love the flame thrower and the flames and the rocket flame.. yeah... love it. Love the map designs. No complaints there. Love the spy capabilities. Love love love the medic cries.
Not sure of: The sg. Somehow it just seems to look rather clunky or ... I dont know. Just not sure I am lvoing that anymore.

Two thumbs up folks. You have outdone yourselves!

**mervaka** · 01-07-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Guy Incognito

The medic doing the immunity thing wont make much of a difference on Pub servers, so thats fine, heh..

Oh happy day, quite enjoy the way you've worked around the feign...

though, a cloaked person isn't all that hard to spot if your looking for it... which might result in alot of ass-handage.

Like, in QTF/TFC if someone fell for the feign, then great, they go past you and you get up and shank them, but this you drop a body, but by rights they should see the blurry guy running down the hall...

Also... I be torn, I really like the idea of messing with the SG's, as you know a large part of being a spy is to be the bain of a Engy's exsistence... but it's sort of... the spy didn't lose an ability yet he gets a new one kind of thing seems a little unfair.

It's just if you look at how badass Mr.Spy is, everyones gonna want to play him, and he used to be a class that more or less 3 people in a 20 player game would play... It's always quite embarasing to brush by another disguised spy

Thats my incorrectly strung together two cents, but on the other hand... released as it is, would still stop me from sleeping untill I was a zombie, like the old QTF did

hasnt got to be tit for tat though.

o_deadly furby · 01-07-2007, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Abjure

Sorry for the size.

Were you speaking to us or your girlfriend?

01-07-2007, 01:12 AM	#221
Lost Fear teh crowbar. Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Gametype: CTF ftw, yeh Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	LOL, it was a good burn, plus the fact that he said he didn't really think the message would be relayed. __________________ Do what you want cuz a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

01-07-2007, 01:49 AM	#226
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	If the "sigh" in italics (and spelled out) didn't properly indicate it, I'm not being serious. Or you're not serious either. SEE THAT'S THE TROUBLE WITH SARCASM WHEN DOES IT END. <3 __________________ Look at all those dead links.

01-07-2007, 03:17 AM	#229
o_ihmhi Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Newark, NJ Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	SG Sabotage Questions Per the advice of Crayola and nodnarb I am posting this in this thread from another one as it apparantly has a better chance of being answered by the devs. In the recently released video two SGs are apparantly sabotaged and fire at one another. I have some questions regarding sabotage. = = = = = = 1. A dispenser is placed within firing range of a SG. The only enemy in the room is a Engineer. A Spy sabotages the SG and then activates the sabotage. Presumably the SG fires on the Engineer until he is dead. Does the SG also fire on the dispenser? 2. Similar situation, but there are two SGs. After the sabotaged SG goes hostile and clears out a room, will it fire on the "opposing" SG? 3. Two SGs, similar situation: will the "clean" SG fire on the sabotaged SG? 4. If FF is off and a SG has the sabotage activated, will the enemies be able to attack their own SG? 5. Will the engineer be able to damage his own gear with FF off? 6. Follow up to question 3: if a sabotaged SG will be attacked by a non-sabotaged SG, will two sabotaged SGs not attack one another (essentially being on the same "team), or are the sabotages mutually exclusive and they will proceed to attack one another? = = = = = = I read through the community F.A.Q. and these questions were not addressed. Therefore I am asking them here so that I may make the additions to the F.A.Q.

01-07-2007, 03:48 AM	#230
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	1. In the video you can see one of the SGs attacking a friendly Dispenser after being hijacked. 2. Yeah. 3.4.5. Dunno. 6. Sabotaged SGs attack each other, as demonstrated in the video. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

01-07-2007, 05:22 AM	#232
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	But they exploded? Edit: Nope, they didn't. Weird. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

01-07-2007, 03:04 AM	#227
o_salo Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Germany Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	it's reassuring to see a variety of different devs back to posting on the forums.

01-07-2007, 05:20 AM	#231
o_ihmhi Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Newark, NJ Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah though I noticed the SGs were attacking one another but they did not receive visible damage (you know, sparking and such like a damaged SG) and they did not die when it looked like they received more than enough damage to die. I guess question #7 would be: 7. Was the two SGs not killing one another in the video a glitch or something?>

01-07-2007, 05:43 AM	#233
o_paft Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	So many petty questions, give it a rest. ; ) Clean your eyes before you watch the video. Is it totally unbearable not knowing the in's and out's of everything? All (minor) queries will be answered upon playing.

01-07-2007, 06:13 AM	#234
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah, the sgs aren't coded to be hostile to each other -- that is, they'll shoot each other, but won't take damage with FF off. That'll most likely change.

01-07-2007, 09:34 AM	#236
o_golfisfun Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Brewer Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	hm...i hope this comes out in the next couple of months i keep watching that video everyday! I cant wait to be in a FF clan!

01-07-2007, 03:36 PM	#237
o_guy incognito Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Toronto Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The medic doing the immunity thing wont make much of a difference on Pub servers, so thats fine, heh.. Oh happy day, quite enjoy the way you've worked around the feign... though, a cloaked person isn't all that hard to spot if your looking for it... which might result in alot of ass-handage. Like, in QTF/TFC if someone fell for the feign, then great, they go past you and you get up and shank them, but this you drop a body, but by rights they should see the blurry guy running down the hall... Also... I be torn, I really like the idea of messing with the SG's, as you know a large part of being a spy is to be the bain of a Engy's exsistence... but it's sort of... the spy didn't lose an ability yet he gets a new one kind of thing seems a little unfair. It's just if you look at how badass Mr.Spy is, everyones gonna want to play him, and he used to be a class that more or less 3 people in a 20 player game would play... It's always quite embarasing to brush by another disguised spy Thats my incorrectly strung together two cents, but on the other hand... released as it is, would still stop me from sleeping untill I was a zombie, like the old QTF did

01-07-2007, 03:39 PM	#238
o_catzeyes93 Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Cons: Not crazy about the hud or the crosshair. Pros: Love love the new pipe gun and the pipes! Good jorb on that! schweet! Love the flame thrower and the flames and the rocket flame.. yeah... love it. Love the map designs. No complaints there. Love the spy capabilities. Love love love the medic cries. Not sure of: The sg. Somehow it just seems to look rather clunky or ... I dont know. Just not sure I am lvoing that anymore. Two thumbs up folks. You have outdone yourselves!

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