why all maps did not have player shadow?

a082 · 10-21-2007, 01:07 AM

the media http://www.fortress-forever.com/medi..._shutdown20038 can see player have shadow,but I can not see.why?

My card is X1950gt.

df` · 10-21-2007, 01:43 AM

I believe they were removed because of an issue where the shadows could be seen through floors or something. Hopefully they will make a reappearance sometime soon in an update. It doesn't bother me that much (I would probably just turn them off anyway) but I can see how it would be a major concern for some people.

PsYcNeT · 10-21-2007, 06:19 AM

Source = crappy non-volumetric shadows

Basically, shadows in the current build of Source don't shadow opposite of the light source, they are just there, and thats super lame.

a082 · 10-21-2007, 11:21 AM

I still want see shadows in game

GeoKill-----> · 10-21-2007, 08:27 PM

Maybe the New Shadows from Ep. 2 would work well?

richard nixon · 10-21-2007, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Source = crappy non-volumetric shadows

Basically, shadows in the current build of Source don't shadow opposite of the light source, they are just there, and thats super lame.

crappy shadows>no shadows

ep 2 shadows=ftw

a082 · 10-22-2007, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richard nixon

crappy shadows>no shadows

ep 2 shadows=ftw

agree.

shadow · 10-22-2007, 03:41 AM

ff should be compiled with the new source engine just to take advantage of the fire effects!

Skanky Butterpuss · 10-22-2007, 04:56 AM

SURE THAT WONT TAKE TIME AT ALL

Lost · 10-22-2007, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow

ff should be compiled with the new source engine just to take advantage of the fire effects!

Yes sirree, now get your happy programming ass into the dev's mailbox and show us what you can do.

**mervaka** · 10-22-2007, 10:53 PM

indeed, they were taken out

This is from Mantis:

Quote:

They don't' draw properly or consistently. Let's just axe them. Shadows on doors look particularly bad... shadows from players that cut through walls are even worse.

this was all written before orange box ofc. and with their new engine updates, it might be reconsidered.. dont put a lot of money on it though, its low priority if it is to ve considered.

Dospac · 10-24-2007, 05:54 AM

Happens in TF2 still(at least with my vid card/shadow settings), so.. heheh

s0undch4s3r · 10-24-2007, 10:29 AM

yea...in TF2 you can see shadows coming through the roof...no biggy though. You don't know who is up there and by the time you do get up there everybody might be gone, back stabbed, mutilated, funeral pyred, axed, baseball batted, wrenched, sniped, etc.

I would really like to see shadows in FF...let us decide to turn it on or off.

If it really is that bad then I guess off is best for now.

Lost · 10-24-2007, 12:05 PM

Well, one of the main problems I saw was seeing buildables through floors. You'd know just where that SG was because you could find it on the floor below where it was actually built.

Skanky Butterpuss · 10-24-2007, 07:32 PM

good i like that idea. fucking SGs.

Dospac · 10-24-2007, 08:23 PM

There were situations where incoming offense could be seen quite ahead of the point where you should be able to see them as a defender, just by the shadow popping through a wall/doorway/the ground/around a corner etc. It was pretty awful from a gameplay pov..

Dr.Satan · 10-25-2007, 03:42 PM

Coming with some experience in the game...I guarentee that i would exploit that if you brought it back. Keep it out it's not that big of a deal, but in the wrong hands it would be very powerful!

10-21-2007, 01:07 AM	#1
a082 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	why all maps did not have player shadow? the media http://www.fortress-forever.com/medi..._shutdown20038 can see player have shadow,but I can not see.why? My card is X1950gt.

10-21-2007, 08:27 PM	#5
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	Maybe the New Shadows from Ep. 2 would work well? __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

10-22-2007, 04:56 AM	#9
Skanky Butterpuss Beware the Hammer D&A Member Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: Sabotaging your shit. Affiliations: :}\|, mimic, /KBN/ Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	SURE THAT WONT TAKE TIME AT ALL __________________ Support FF: Etzell: Skanky Etzell: The Wings are fucking fantastic Etzell: They really are Etzell: But even SAYING that makes me want to vomit

10-24-2007, 12:05 PM	#14
Lost Fear teh crowbar. Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Gametype: CTF ftw, yeh Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	Well, one of the main problems I saw was seeing buildables through floors. You'd know just where that SG was because you could find it on the floor below where it was actually built. __________________ Do what you want cuz a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

10-24-2007, 07:32 PM	#15
Skanky Butterpuss Beware the Hammer D&A Member Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: Sabotaging your shit. Affiliations: :}\|, mimic, /KBN/ Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	good i like that idea. fucking SGs. __________________ Support FF: Etzell: Skanky Etzell: The Wings are fucking fantastic Etzell: They really are Etzell: But even SAYING that makes me want to vomit

10-21-2007, 01:43 AM	#2
df` Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I believe they were removed because of an issue where the shadows could be seen through floors or something. Hopefully they will make a reappearance sometime soon in an update. It doesn't bother me that much (I would probably just turn them off anyway) but I can see how it would be a major concern for some people.

10-21-2007, 06:19 AM	#3
PsYcNeT Black Chancellor Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Calgary, Alberta eh? Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Source = crappy non-volumetric shadows Basically, shadows in the current build of Source don't shadow opposite of the light source, they are just there, and thats super lame.

10-21-2007, 11:21 AM	#4
a082 Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I still want see shadows in game

10-22-2007, 03:41 AM	#8
shadow Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	ff should be compiled with the new source engine just to take advantage of the fire effects!

10-24-2007, 05:54 AM	#12
Dospac Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Happens in TF2 still(at least with my vid card/shadow settings), so.. heheh

10-24-2007, 10:29 AM	#13
s0undch4s3r The guy you love to hate. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Under your bed Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	yea...in TF2 you can see shadows coming through the roof...no biggy though. You don't know who is up there and by the time you do get up there everybody might be gone, back stabbed, mutilated, funeral pyred, axed, baseball batted, wrenched, sniped, etc. I would really like to see shadows in FF...let us decide to turn it on or off. If it really is that bad then I guess off is best for now.

10-24-2007, 08:23 PM	#16
Dospac Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	There were situations where incoming offense could be seen quite ahead of the point where you should be able to see them as a defender, just by the shadow popping through a wall/doorway/the ground/around a corner etc. It was pretty awful from a gameplay pov..

10-25-2007, 03:42 PM	#17
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	Coming with some experience in the game...I guarentee that i would exploit that if you brought it back. Keep it out it's not that big of a deal, but in the wrong hands it would be very powerful! __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

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