Skimming Momentum Theory - Page 7

Tsukasa · 07-22-2008, 09:34 AM

high-er. More high than 2.0.

Circuitous · 07-22-2008, 09:38 AM

That would do exactly the opposite of what the skimcap exists for.

That's like "hey instead of wrapping that in duct tape why don't you jackhammer it?"

Yeah that's what you're saying.

Tsukasa · 07-22-2008, 12:21 PM

-_-. No, as in increase the percentage that you are slowed after each hop. Somewhere in the last 4 posts apparently what higher was referring to was lost.

**squeek.** · 07-22-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsukasa

-_-. No, as in increase the percentage that you are slowed after each hop. Somewhere in the last 4 posts apparently what higher was referring to was lost.

It's not the percentage you lose, it's the percentage you keep. Take a look at this thread again. You have it backwards. Plus, that solution is not very good. It's been tried.

Nuk3m · 07-22-2008, 09:17 PM

right now, the skim cap is 2.0 or, 200%. so if your class is... medic, you move at 320 regularly, you are no allowed to go over 640. if your a heavy, your moving at 240, you cant go over 480. either way, I cant see it really doing much to any classes other than medic and scout. it can, but mostly those classes will be effected the most by it. which isnt a bad thing.

**squeek.** · 07-22-2008, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nuk3m

right now, the skim cap is 2.0 or, 200%. so if your class is... medic, you move at 320 regularly, you are no allowed to go over 640. if your a heavy, your moving at 240, you cant go over 480. either way, I cant see it really doing much to any classes other than medic and scout. it can, but mostly those classes will be effected the most by it. which isnt a bad thing.

It's actually 180% because of the hard cap degen thingar.

Nuk3m · 07-22-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by squeek.

It's actually 180% because of the hard cap degen thingar.

eh, 200% was smooth to me. well, idk i liked 800 as scout, maybe make it 2.1 to compensate? i remember we decided on 2.0 before the hardcap degen variable

**squeek.** · 07-22-2008, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nuk3m

eh, 200% was smooth to me. well, idk i liked 800 as scout, maybe make it 2.1 to compensate? i remember we decided on 2.0 before the hardcap degen variable

We had 1.8 before the degen. Why are we discussing this here?

BoltR · 07-22-2008, 09:42 PM

Because it's easy to lose track of which, of like 5, thread you are in discussing it?

**squeek.** · 07-22-2008, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BoltR

Because it's easy to lose track of which, of like 5, thread you are in discussing it?

Very true.

Nuk3m · 07-22-2008, 09:56 PM

1.8? i thought we said that was too low? wowzers you know default is 2.0 right? if im not mistaken. yeah actually it has been 2.0 for a long time now.

BoltR · 07-22-2008, 10:03 PM

The value of the hard_cap variable is 2.0, but because of the hard_cap_degen variable it works out to 1.8...

Nuk3m · 07-22-2008, 10:06 PM

oh i see now, yeah i just tested it, its fine. i was thinkin it was at 1.8 being slowed to 1.6

Circuitous · 07-22-2008, 10:07 PM

I hope you guys don't mind but I got rid of the beta discussion shit here.

Nuk3m · 07-22-2008, 10:27 PM

tbh, it didnt hit me that i was under general discussion.

fireb0rn · 07-26-2008, 06:02 AM

just curious, what % unaided bunnyhop caps are you guys testing?

Circuitous · 07-26-2008, 09:05 PM

140% soft cap. You can get to about 160% easily, and the max you can come up off a jump is around 180-185%.

I've only hit the hard cap unaided once, but I'm no great bunnyhopper... the cool thing about getting over the hard cap, though, is that the hard cap affects you instead of the soft cap's degen, so you lose less speed.

Pretty neat, anyway.

07-22-2008, 09:38 AM	#122
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	That would do exactly the opposite of what the skimcap exists for. That's like "hey instead of wrapping that in duct tape why don't you jackhammer it?" Yeah that's what you're saying. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

07-22-2008, 10:07 PM	#134
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	I hope you guys don't mind but I got rid of the beta discussion shit here. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

07-26-2008, 09:05 PM	#137
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	140% soft cap. You can get to about 160% easily, and the max you can come up off a jump is around 180-185%. I've only hit the hard cap unaided once, but I'm no great bunnyhopper... the cool thing about getting over the hard cap, though, is that the hard cap affects you instead of the soft cap's degen, so you lose less speed. Pretty neat, anyway. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

07-22-2008, 09:34 AM	#121
Tsukasa Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: O Gametype: CTF Affiliations: mimic- Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	high-er. More high than 2.0.

07-22-2008, 12:21 PM	#123
Tsukasa Join Date: Sep 2007 Class/Position: O Gametype: CTF Affiliations: mimic- Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	-_-. No, as in increase the percentage that you are slowed after each hop. Somewhere in the last 4 posts apparently what higher was referring to was lost.

07-22-2008, 09:17 PM	#125
Nuk3m Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey, USA! Class/Position: Scout / Offense Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: :e0: Founder Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	right now, the skim cap is 2.0 or, 200%. so if your class is... medic, you move at 320 regularly, you are no allowed to go over 640. if your a heavy, your moving at 240, you cant go over 480. either way, I cant see it really doing much to any classes other than medic and scout. it can, but mostly those classes will be effected the most by it. which isnt a bad thing.

07-22-2008, 09:42 PM	#129
BoltR Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Because it's easy to lose track of which, of like 5, thread you are in discussing it?

07-22-2008, 09:56 PM	#131
Nuk3m Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey, USA! Class/Position: Scout / Offense Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: :e0: Founder Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	1.8? i thought we said that was too low? wowzers you know default is 2.0 right? if im not mistaken. yeah actually it has been 2.0 for a long time now.

07-22-2008, 10:03 PM	#132
BoltR Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The value of the hard_cap variable is 2.0, but because of the hard_cap_degen variable it works out to 1.8...

07-22-2008, 10:06 PM	#133
Nuk3m Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey, USA! Class/Position: Scout / Offense Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: :e0: Founder Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	oh i see now, yeah i just tested it, its fine. i was thinkin it was at 1.8 being slowed to 1.6

07-22-2008, 10:27 PM	#135
Nuk3m Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey, USA! Class/Position: Scout / Offense Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: :e0: Founder Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	tbh, it didnt hit me that i was under general discussion.

07-26-2008, 06:02 AM	#136
fireb0rn Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	just curious, what % unaided bunnyhop caps are you guys testing?

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