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Old 01-30-2008, 04:24 AM   #1
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i'm on the uh youtube there

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This is kinda random, but I guess it's fine since this is also the Chat forum.

I decided to upload some old videos of some old TFC maps Jesse and I made. I have some more old random TFC videos that I might upload as well just for the hell of it, like the pigskin video.

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Anyways, like I said...kinda random. Just some old TFC videos, mainly of our old shitty maps.
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Old 01-30-2008, 06:02 PM   #2
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This is the kinda shit we need for FF!
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:38 PM   #3
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A bunch of FF videos? Yeah, I definitely agree.

Especially videos that show how the maps work and shit.

Love to see a remake of the waterpolo gameplay video...same music, newer map.
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Old 01-30-2008, 10:17 PM   #4
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Old 01-30-2008, 10:19 PM   #5
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Does Axl still run servers?
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Old 01-30-2008, 10:27 PM   #6
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did a working waterpolo even get in FF? i havent checked since 1.1 cam out
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Old 01-30-2008, 10:30 PM   #7
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been in there since i started beta testing...
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Old 01-31-2008, 02:03 AM   #8
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did a working waterpolo even get in FF? i havent checked since 1.1 cam out
Yeah, 1.11 fixed up its lua. And the next patch might have a few more waterpolo lua tweaks.

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Does Axl still run servers?
Axl's server is long gone. I've talked to him recently and he said he's thought about starting an Axl's TF2, but doesn't feel like paying for it. He remade hwguyz for TF2 as ctf_steamroll, and it's awesome...
http://axlstfc.com/

I asked him if he'd be alright with us remaking Axl and Axl-like maps for FF, and he said he'd be all for it. Even offered his RMFs for better referencing.

Eventually, I'd like to make a Trepid FF server that would be a lot like what Axl's TFC server was...eventually...

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Yeah, 1.11 fixed up its lua. And the next patch might have a few more waterpolo lua tweaks.


Axl's server is long gone. I've talked to him recently and he said he's thought about starting an Axl's TF2, but doesn't feel like paying for it. He remade hwguyz for TF2 as ctf_steamroll, and it's awesome...
http://axlstfc.com/

I asked him if he'd be alright with us remaking Axl and Axl-like maps for FF, and he said he'd be all for it. Even offered his RMFs for better referencing.

Eventually, I'd like to make a Trepid FF server that would be a lot like what Axl's TFC server was...eventually...

"They mostly come at night. Mostly..."
Dude! That's a helluva guy right there! Not even gives permission, but offers original references to make sure they are done right. That's class right there!
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He did ban me for spamming "OMGH4X", though . Looong time ago. Then again the biggest problem during that time period was TwoEyedHuman. 100% asshole.
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Old 01-31-2008, 04:02 AM   #11
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you know, the fun shit nearly every FF player's missing out on, because everyone wants to ignore the apparently diseased ff_waterpolo...wait, what?
There is no way of stopping someone from capping. If I remember right, you can cap ontop of the goal? With the soft cap it makes it impossible to stop anyone, though. And the goalie is worthless.

I suggest getting rid of the round reset with each cap and just have the ball reset in the middle. Maybe make it unreachable (or just delay the spawn) for 5-10 seconds after a cap.
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Old 01-31-2008, 04:33 AM   #12
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Old 01-31-2008, 06:14 AM   #13
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There is no way of stopping someone from capping. If I remember right, you can cap ontop of the goal? With the soft cap it makes it impossible to stop anyone, though. And the goalie is worthless.

I suggest getting rid of the round reset with each cap and just have the ball reset in the middle. Maybe make it unreachable (or just delay the spawn) for 5-10 seconds after a cap.
Well, one of the problems with ff_waterpolo is that grenades aren't stripped on spawn like they were in the TFC version. So scouts are concin' like crazy all the time instead of relying on the grenade packs.

On top of that, it's hard to tell where a dropped ball is and who has the ball, because we don't have glowing yet and the ball carrier doesn't have an arrow above them like in TFC...and the ball doesn't float on top of the water (although, TFC's waterpolo had opaque water and you couldn't see a dropped ball for shit).

But no, you can't cap on top of the goal. And it's not impossible to stop a cap. Pipe traps are still the best defense, in my opinion.
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Old 01-31-2008, 06:22 AM   #14
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^Either way, I've had lots of fun on ff_waterpolo, and i believe diversity in game modes will at one point be a big selling point of FF's ..s
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Well, one of the problems with ff_waterpolo is that grenades aren't stripped on spawn like they were in the TFC version. So scouts are concin' like crazy all the time instead of relying on the grenade packs.
That is the major problem with that map, actually. Scouts are incredibly hard to defend against. It might be playable if scouts need to grab a nade bag first.
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Old 01-31-2008, 07:21 AM   #16
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Yeah, that plus the fact that not stripping grenades allows shit tons worth of grenade spam. I got pretty annoyed with all the spam when I played it earlier...for pretty much the first time outside of beta. Big mistake forgetting to strip grenades.
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Old 01-31-2008, 07:55 PM   #17
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Well it can be fixed in FF 2.0, yes? That would be a nice addition - a much improved waterpolo.

Also, shouldn't this be in General? d:
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Yeah, some fixes would need to be in order for ff_waterpolo to even come close to making it worth while.

The last time I played that game I was capping before the enemy team was touching the water as scout. Just HH straight across the water zoom by pick up ball, bhop straight into goal before a solly even reached me. I did this because if I didn't the enemy team's scout would do the same thing.

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I thought about putting it in General Discussion, but wasn't sure since it didn't have anything directly to do with FF. However, now it does...

ff_waterpolo - down in a hole

Should make more random FF videos and just keep adding them there.
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I thought about putting it in General Discussion, but wasn't sure since it didn't have anything directly to do with FF. However, now it does...

ff_waterpolo - down in a hole

Should make more random FF videos and just keep adding them there.
Great song. And interesting choice of showing you putting the nade stripping code into the map's lua. It's a very specific group of people that will even begin to understand what's going on there.

But, it captures the problem with the current version of waterpolo pretty well.
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