How will FF address mat hacks?

[shadow]

Whereby a player adds $translucent 1 and such to all their VMTs?

[unf]

Originally Posted by shadow

Whereby a player adds $translucent 1 and such to all their VMTs?

force file consistency

[Scale]

yes force consistency....
O right there are a ton of hacks to bypass force consistancy

[Defrag]

Short of going the usual routes (i.e. anti-cheat methods inherent to the Source engine like file consistency checks) there's little we can do about any kind of cheating on the first release.

[RP.]

The same way hedgehogs fuck - Slowly and carefully

[iMpi]

Originally Posted by RP.

The same way hedgehogs fuck - Slowly and carefully

How would you know

[gizmofo]

Originally Posted by RP.

The same way hedgehogs fuck - Slowly and carefully

God-like post buddy

[skuLL]

The only thing that bypass sv_consistency are memory hacks
Wich are almost all detected by vac2 :]

[iMpi]

VAC is useless when it comes to transparent walls.. You just need clear textures. Not that I would know or anything

[TheWetMule]

Originally Posted by RP.

The same way hedgehogs fuck - Slowly and carefully

Have you ever watched hedgehogs chase each other before they have fun? Holy hell they run forever, me and several friends followed 2 for about an hour ( Hey we had nothing better to do and the hedgehogs were in the middle of a busy town centre, so harrr)

[Direhit]

Originally Posted by skuLL

The only thing that bypass sv_consistency are memory hacks
Wich are almost all detected by vac2 :]

There are a few ways to hide memory from VAC2, even more now on Vista...

[Scale]

Even beter u dont even have to modify memory to bypass it

[SizeableSSonic]

Originally Posted by iMpi

How would you know

QFT.

[nex nicholai]

The best way to deal with any hack is and will be a good admin team on the server.

1. A strong admin presence discourages hackers from being regulars since they often go for "easy servers" where no one is watching.

2. Hopefully there will be a DEMO-PLAYBACK only tool (like Xspec for HL1) that will allow admins to watch demos in wall hack mode. It makes it very easy to tell when someone is looking through the floor at someone.

3. Even without Xspec, a keen eye can spot someone wall hacking. Hackers are usually pretty dumb and just out to fuck around.

Anyhoo, software anti-cheat measures are always a good idea. But there are always workarounds and thats why there will always be a need for a good admin.

[ekiM]

Just make the game so enjoyable that hackers would rather play straight than ruin the fun for themselves and everyone else.

[TheWetMule]

Originally Posted by ekiM

Just make the game so enjoyable that hackers would rather play straight than ruin the fun for themselves and everyone else.

You gotta remember, hackers love porno, everybody slap porno around their maps and they'll be too aroused to kill anything so we can easily spot them!

[luminous]

Originally Posted by TheWetMule

Have you ever watched hedgehogs chase each other before they have fun? Holy hell they run forever, me and several friends followed 2 for about an hour ( Hey we had nothing better to do and the hedgehogs were in the middle of a busy town centre, so harrr)

you sad, sad little man mule

[[AE] 82694]

Originally Posted by TheWetMule

Have you ever watched hedgehogs chase each other before they have fun? Holy hell they run forever, me and several friends followed 2 for about an hour ( Hey we had nothing better to do and the hedgehogs were in the middle of a busy town centre, so harrr)

Sounds like you were the ones chasing the hogs. I bet you grew up where men are men and the animals run scared.

had a type-o sorry

[unf]

Originally Posted by nex nicholai

2. Hopefully there will be a DEMO-PLAYBACK only tool (like Xspec for HL1) that will allow admins to watch demos in wall hack mode. It makes it very easy to tell when someone is looking through the floor at someone.

There is one in css, so it's probably in hl2, so it could be in ff

mat_proxy = transparent walls in demo/sourceTV

[skuLL]

Well, if you really put some think about mat hacks, they take a long time to be developed, because you need to make map per map, and with FF having such a large ammount of maps (done and beeing done) it'll take a real long time to do it.
CSS best mat hack has been done on August 2006, and the game has been there for some time now...
So, let's say FF is released in 2007, it'll take at least 1 or 2 years for all default maps to be hacked, and if you want to do it on custom map, you can add some other years to the equation too.