Dev. Journal: trepid_jon (2008-06-29) - Page 2

KubeDawg · 06-29-2008, 11:16 PM

I'm very interested to see some of the new features that the orange box source has. Maybe a video sometime soon? Or shortly after 2.1 has been released? bases is coming along really well. I'm liking it a lot and can't wait to play it in leagues. And new cz2 +demo det area = win.

trepid_jon · 06-29-2008, 11:17 PM

I left out Jiggles' "straight down shadow projection" code, cause all the shadow code got reworked by Valve...whether that means better shadows or not, I dunno...I imagine I still hate Source shadows.

Do they suck in Orange Box? I can't even remember...haven't played TF2 in a long time.

And yeah, the cz2 CC was updated....teleporters instead of flags, cause the flags were moved to the base beams, which are now flag dispensers.

Inceptor · 06-30-2008, 01:34 AM

Sometimes I just start spinning my mouse in portal.

HDR ftw!

ensiform · 06-30-2008, 01:41 AM

What is so special about in-game real time motion blur? That would be completely ridiculous to use in a regular game...

randombewblova · 06-30-2008, 03:19 AM

i think i just came

how's ff_waterpolo coming along? i've heard lots of people have gotton terible FPS on that map.

Credge · 06-30-2008, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ensiform

What is so special about in-game real time motion blur? That would be completely ridiculous to use in a regular game...

It isn't. It makes your movements seem more fluid (by movements I mean mouse turns). It doesn't effect your skill in the slightest.

trepid_jon · 06-30-2008, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ensiform

What is so special about in-game real time motion blur? That would be completely ridiculous to use in a regular game...

Regular games like just about every recent game that's been released? But of course, the main ones in this case being HL2:EP2, Portal, and TF2. And like Credge said, it's so subtle that it doesn't mess with your skill level...it just improves visuals.

As for waterpolo, uh...I dunno. The expensive water's gone now and I made some other tweaks. I'm not sure if the same FPS hits are still there or not. It might be the fact that everyone's playing in water...all the splashing and whatnot. I have no clue, we need to playtest it with lots of players.

Ihmhi · 06-30-2008, 07:53 AM

In waterpolo we noticed a lot of problems when ragdolls hit the water. Could be something to do with that?

Also, I just came a little. 8====D~

GambiT · 06-30-2008, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randombewblova

how's ff_waterpolo coming along? i've heard lots of people have gotton terible FPS on that map.

i've never had a problem with this map, granted i havent played it with a full server, still, i saw no problems FPS.

pF · 06-30-2008, 02:10 PM

$jigglebones!

Hammock · 06-30-2008, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trepid_jon

As for waterpolo, uh...I dunno. The expensive water's gone now and I made some other tweaks. I'm not sure if the same FPS hits are still there or not. It might be the fact that everyone's playing in water...all the splashing and whatnot. I have no clue, we need to playtest it with lots of players.

I know you've done lots of work on waterpolo, but why not turn it into ukfootie instead? It's the same style of play just with no water, and some restricted classes. With all that water it just feels like no matter what people are going to have a hard time playing that game if they don't have a super computer to play it. Where i normally get 120-130 fps, I get like 5 in waterpolo, and on a full server it's like 1 heh.

trepid_jon · 06-30-2008, 03:21 PM

The thing is, I've never really given waterpolo the proper attention it needs. It was just a port of our TFC version. Then it got put in one of the releases. Then I just expanded it to be more like ukfootie, by removing the spawn rooms, adding rounds with an invisible wall, and making the arena bigger. I haven't ever done any real mapping for waterpolo, though...the brushwork is still basically the same TFC brushwork, for example.

But I agree, a version of waterpolo without the water (ukfootie) would be a good thing to have officially. I know there's already a community-made remake of that, so maybe we should just throw that in the next FF release. Or make a new one, I dunno. The waterpolo/ukfootie gameplay's too much fun for people to be missing out simply because waterpolo the map destroys FPS for most people.

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Originally Posted by -pF-

$jigglebones!

I saw that in the Orange Box code and merged it into Orange Box FF. Don't even know what it does, but that's good if you do.

Circuitous · 06-30-2008, 07:57 PM

Hint: it's a bone that jiggles.

It's handy for fat people and chicks without bras.

GeoKill-----> · 06-30-2008, 08:31 PM

The heavy's gut can jiggle eh?

Sh4x · 06-30-2008, 09:20 PM

Our heavy isn't even fat (which sucks btw) so it's no use really.

GeoKill-----> · 06-30-2008, 09:31 PM

his gut is sticking out

Nuk3m · 06-30-2008, 10:14 PM

Alrighty then I vote we make the HWGuy chris farley.

http://images.google.com/images?gbv=...farley&spell=1

Lynus · 07-01-2008, 08:22 AM

lol this is good news...

make him look like this :

reaper18 · 07-01-2008, 11:49 AM

omg now im gonna have fuckin nightmares...ass
thought it was john candy at first

Circuitous · 07-01-2008, 05:33 PM

Is... is that supposed to be Don Vito?

06-29-2008, 11:16 PM	#21
KubeDawg Nade Whore Server Owner Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oklahoma Class/Position: Scout/Soldier Gametype: CTF/TDM Affiliations: blunt. Moto Posts Rated Helpful 128 Times	I'm very interested to see some of the new features that the orange box source has. Maybe a video sometime soon? Or shortly after 2.1 has been released? bases is coming along really well. I'm liking it a lot and can't wait to play it in leagues. And new cz2 +demo det area = win. __________________ Moto's Funhouse \| Dallas, TX - 74.91.114.247:27015 ff_plunder - Complete

06-29-2008, 11:17 PM	#22
trepid_jon Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX Class/Position: D Civilian Gametype: Rocket Jousting Affiliations: EAFD Posts Rated Helpful 78 Times	I left out Jiggles' "straight down shadow projection" code, cause all the shadow code got reworked by Valve...whether that means better shadows or not, I dunno...I imagine I still hate Source shadows. Do they suck in Orange Box? I can't even remember...haven't played TF2 in a long time. And yeah, the cz2 CC was updated....teleporters instead of flags, cause the flags were moved to the base beams, which are now flag dispensers. __________________ Support FF: Trepid steamcommunity.com/id/trepid_jon/

06-30-2008, 01:41 AM	#24
ensiform Time Lord, Doctor Beta Tester Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The TARDIS Class/Position: Engineer Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	What is so special about in-game real time motion blur? That would be completely ridiculous to use in a regular game... __________________ Open Fortress Developer TrashedGamers.com - Root Access Admin

06-30-2008, 07:53 AM	#28
Ihmhi [AE] 0112 Ihmhi SJB Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Newark, NJ, United States Class/Position: A little bit o' everythin' Gametype: Also a little bit o' everythin' Affiliations: [AE] Asseater, SJB Straight Jacket Brigade Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	In waterpolo we noticed a lot of problems when ragdolls hit the water. Could be something to do with that? Also, I just came a little. 8====D~ __________________ Support FF: Anime: The Thread: Reloaded The one and only anime thread on these here forums. Select the pistol, and then, select your horse.

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06-30-2008, 01:34 AM	#23
Inceptor /Fail Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Sometimes I just start spinning my mouse in portal. HDR ftw!

06-30-2008, 03:19 AM	#25
randombewblova Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i think i just came how's ff_waterpolo coming along? i've heard lots of people have gotton terible FPS on that map.

06-30-2008, 07:57 PM	#33
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Hint: it's a bone that jiggles. It's handy for fat people and chicks without bras. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

06-30-2008, 08:31 PM	#34
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	The heavy's gut can jiggle eh? __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

06-30-2008, 09:20 PM	#35
Sh4x Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Our heavy isn't even fat (which sucks btw) so it's no use really.

06-30-2008, 09:31 PM	#36
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	his gut is sticking out __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

06-30-2008, 10:14 PM	#37
Nuk3m Banned Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Jersey, USA! Class/Position: Scout / Offense Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: :e0: Founder Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Alrighty then I vote we make the HWGuy chris farley. http://images.google.com/images?gbv=...farley&spell=1

07-01-2008, 08:22 AM	#38
Lynus I like Ceyx Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: MI Posts Rated Helpful 11 Times	lol this is good news... make him look like this : __________________ hef

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reaper18 sKeeD D&A Member Beta Tester Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Class/Position: Scout, Demo, Solly Gametype: Any Posts Rated Helpful 21 Times	omg now im gonna have fuckin nightmares...ass thought it was john candy at first

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Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Is... is that supposed to be Don Vito? __________________ Look at all those dead links.

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