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Old 12-06-2006, 05:59 AM   #201
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Scripts for RJs?

Hahahahaha.

The dispenser and other tweaks would be possible, and since I don't think VAC2 works with third-party mods, you won't get banned from Steam for any of them.
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Old 12-06-2006, 10:57 AM   #202
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and youre a scrub
ok...i'm a scrub.

CS is still crap compared to TFC imo...just an opinion there little buddy.
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Old 12-06-2006, 11:08 AM   #203
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the fact that you supposedly have a legal or natural right to an opinion is irrelevant

furthermore, should you really keep an opinion if you can't summon any logic to support it ?

taste and properties of something, even if linked, are distinct. there is no link between the level of like or dislike of something and its actual worth or definition.
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Old 12-06-2006, 11:23 AM   #204
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I don't really get why people insist on comparing CS and TFC, just because they happened to be based on the same engine. Each to their own, TFC is shite now IMO but I still enjoy spacking away at CS every now and again. I expect when TF2 and/or FF comes out, I wont really bother with CS, but it is fun to pick up and play, even though I have no idea of tactics and stuff (much like a newbie for TFC).

Interesting comment above though; no VAC in FF? What form will anti-cheat take then?
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Old 12-06-2006, 12:37 PM   #205
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this is should shut you up...

TFC Video

watch it all the way through even the cs part.

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Old 12-06-2006, 06:31 PM   #206
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Actually, i would argue the other way. CS matches are often won and lost before the bomb has gone down. A cameraman has to follow each player individually because a crucial play could be a player sneaking up behind the opposing team - not just stick the camera in the bombsite and expect to catch all the action. In fact CS lans are reknowned for trying all sorts of different methods to make CS watchable, and failed miserably.

On the other hand, by watching (for example) the openfire flag room, you can see most of what is going on - at least, the action spectators want to see: concs to the flag, sentry guns going up and down, offense players using teamwork.
I do agree with that to some extent (CS is not an entirely straightforward game to screen), but the pace of the game usually means there's a bit more leeway when it comes to quick alteration of focal points.

Normally in CS you can concentrate on bombspots fairly easily, as you'll always have roughly standard tactics in action, on the CT side especially. There are less players than a TFC match and it's very rare you'll need to switch between all 10 players at any time - usually switching between individuals will be done in clutch situations and so on, else it will be locational or in groups.

The only thing that perhaps does confuse things is that, as you said, CS games can be won and lost before anybody has even got the bomb near a site. However, it's extremely rare that any clan will completely forget about trying to plant a bomb in order to go out and kill everyone on the other team as a primary target.

I'm not saying TFC couldn't work, I just don't think having pretty much 2 'games' going on at once is an easy thing to exhibit to a wider audience than those who actually play TFC or even computer games.
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:09 PM   #207
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TFC and Counter-Strike? Apples and oranges. Why not compare Insta-gib UT to Rainbow Six?
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:17 PM   #208
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TFC and Counter-Strike? Apples and oranges. Why not compare Insta-gib UT to Rainbow Six?
Or how about Beyond Zork vs. Deer Hunter?
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:23 PM   #209
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less CS vs TFC, more beta talk.
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:34 PM   #210
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f*ck, who cares about tfc and cs... please continue discussing what ff is like, beta testers.
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:39 PM   #211
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i agree. this of all threads we should have never let the topic go astray. So testers, anything else you ccan spill the beans on
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Old 12-06-2006, 09:51 PM   #212
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f*ck, who cares about tfc and cs... please continue discussing what ff is like, beta testers.
In English class I learned that if you have a sentence like such:

Quote:
The ball, owned by mario, rolled down the hill.
you omit what is between the commas, so it would be
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The ball rolled down the hill.
Now we will take your sentence...

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f*ck, who cares about tfc and cs... please continue discussing what ff is like, beta testers.
Now thats just not nice
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Old 12-06-2006, 10:02 PM   #213
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^^ haha nice show ^^



so good in fact it inspired me with this little prose

the beta tester team really
seems to be working hard, which
sucks, because why didn't
they post more reviews in this thread ?
they leak the damn thing -
they get toasted. i know.
it really look like they're
respecting the rules, they're not
a collective giant douchebag..

(in case you don't get it skip a line out of two when you read it)

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Old 12-06-2006, 11:10 PM   #214
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those were two different sentences. to be fair the ellipses makes it seem like one.
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:26 AM   #215
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the fact that you supposedly have a legal or natural right to an opinion is irrelevant

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i live in the USA where freedom of speech is practiced.

TFC, FF > CS garbage
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:33 AM   #216
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^^ haha nice show ^^



so good in fact it inspired me with this little prose

the beta tester team really
seems to be working hard, which
sucks, because why didn't
they post more reviews in this thread ?
they leak the damn thing -
they get toasted. i know.
it really look like they're
respecting the rules, they're not
a collective giant douchebag..

(in case you don't get it skip a line out of two when you read it)
nice
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:43 AM   #217
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i live in the USA where freedom of speech is practiced.

TFC, FF > CS garbage
Freedom of speech is not carte blanche to be a retard.
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Old 12-07-2006, 02:48 AM   #218
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i live in the USA where freedom of speech is practiced.

TFC, FF > CS garbage
He was posing the philosophical question of whether humans have natural rights and if humans can have "rights" at all. Well, not "posing" it but I think he was hinting at it in a way. At least from my interpretation.

(Yeah I read too far into things, eh?)
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Old 12-07-2006, 11:39 AM   #219
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i live in the USA where freedom of speech is practiced.

TFC, FF > CS garbage
I live in England where we often think you americans (sic) have the IQ of a boiled egg. AND LO, YOU SHALT POST.

No offense to all you other yanks/french canadians/whatever, this is more about how much of a dense piece of poo soundchaser is.

Back to the topic....

Any new developments since first post?
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Old 12-07-2006, 11:52 AM   #220
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(Yeah I read too far into things, eh?)
No not at all, that's exactly what I was saying, stating that these supposed rights had nothing to do with the present discussion.

The fact that one lives in America and the supposed rights one acquires living there is also irrelevant.

You also didn't address the second part of my post.

You fail.
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