FF_EgyptianCurse

o_dr_bones · 10-09-2006, 04:29 AM

Here are some screenshots of a map I'm currently working on for another ctf mod but plan to convert over to FF also. I noticed someone just started a egypt theme map, but two is better then one..no?

It's about 75% done atm and any comments are welcome.

Red Spawn Room

Trap to Red Flag Room

Red Flag Room

Hallway on Red Side

Red Base Outside

Blue Base Outside

Red's Outer Courtyard

o_jarek · 10-09-2006, 04:47 AM

cool theme, i like the indoors, but the outdoors doesn't tie in very well with the egyptian concept... sandy textures would do this map wonders, with a more sedementary rock texture

o_docwolfe · 10-09-2006, 08:16 AM

if its an egyptian theme why are there graves with crucifixes on them?

o_loader · 10-09-2006, 09:39 AM

roflcakes

o_don · 10-09-2006, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarek

cool theme, i like the indoors, but the outdoors doesn't tie in very well with the egyptian concept... sandy textures would do this map wonders, with a more sedementary rock texture

I agree.

With a bit more work and polish this could potentially be a very beautiful map.

My suggestions/comments:

1. Get rid of the grey rock models outside and replace them with a giant pyramid or two.

2. Have a look around the internet for scenic pictures of the pyramids, egyptian artifacts, statues, murals

3. Maybe even design it so that each base is a pyramid.

4. There seems to be no clear cut theme. It is of course Egyptian, but is it in the desert, is it in the middle of an oasis, is it in a well kept garden? If it is set hundreds of years ago, which I am guessing is what you wanted as the buildings are in perfect condition, then the courtyard should naturally be well kept with flora and fauna, palm trees, and grass. If you would rather set it in the present, then there would be desert, or dust, and the buildings would not have perfect angles (a bit like this):

Personally I think a ruined present day look, although more work, would be more beautiful, interesting and possibly more fun as a challenge for you as a mapper to research and recreate. Couple that with a great level design and you are on to a winner.

5. Basically, work out a solid theme in your mind, iron out any inconsistencies, (like the tree type, the yellow hazard symbols and the pipes, the crucifixes etc.) and go for it. The reason you went for an egyptian themed map as opposed to a standard CTF map is surely to impress the player visually, your theme not intending to affect gameplay in any way. So, as long as you justify using a theme by making it great fun to look at, you should do fine.

o_donny · 10-09-2006, 01:54 PM

Looks like one of them UT maps with futuristic egyptian theme. If there werent for them maps.
As I have been in egypt, the pyramids didnt look anything like that from inside.

Now dont get me wrong, it's a nice start, but still needs lots of loving hand to make it shine like a diamond.

So here it is in short:
-Nice start
-Still needs polishing (75% anyway, that should be obvious)

EDIT:
-And the textures really need normal maps to make it look not so 2000ish

o_nezumi · 10-09-2006, 02:32 PM

It looks like a good start, and I really like the egyptianish textures. I'd add that you should ditch a lot of the spraypaint decals, like those in the second shot.

Mulchman MM · 10-09-2006, 02:35 PM

Your 33.6 modem hosting has got to go...

o_own3r · 10-09-2006, 02:36 PM

The theme isn't bad, just make it consistant in alot of those shots its not egyptian
http://www.members.shaw.ca/Sir_Thomas/ff_curse5.jpg
http://www.members.shaw.ca/Sir_Thomas/ff_curse7.jpg
http://www.members.shaw.ca/Sir_Thomas/ff_curse2.jpg

O yeah and you may want to make this shot ALOT CLEANER http://www.members.shaw.ca/Sir_Thomas/ff_curse5.jpg get some interesting architecture in there, put in some brocken walls with cliffs exposed or sand in wholes in the floor or no floor at all in some places, theres alot you can do here with egyptian theme
some things from deviant art
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/...+age_scale%3A5
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/...+age_scale%3A5
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/...e%2Flandscapes
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/...ure%2Fexterior
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/...ure%2Fexterior

o_dr_bones · 10-09-2006, 04:49 PM

Well like I said from the start, it is a convert over from another mod. There it's themed more like the conbines have found a secret temple complex and started converting it for a base. When the rebels find out about this, they well of couse decide to fight for it as well...etc... So that's why it has a old/new/odd way to it with the decals ect. Once it get's done for that other mod, then will custom it more towards this one. Just need to find someone to make custom decals/models etc. lol

o_nodnarb · 10-09-2006, 05:27 PM

I personally play the HL2CTF mod for HL2 DM, and I would love to see this map with some of the changes above. Whenever I think of an egypt theme I don't think of spraypaint/water/green, but instead dusty dirty wornout. I hpe you take some of the suggestions, and turn it into an excelent map.

o_skull · 10-09-2006, 09:06 PM

http://www.members.shaw.ca/Sir_Thomas/ff_curse5.jpg

please, remove those graphics from the walls

they don't match the theme AT ALL.

Just my 2 cents.

o_someoldguy · 10-09-2006, 10:09 PM

hmmmmm..... methinks me recognizes the hosting url and probably the person making this map.

o_dr_bones · 10-10-2006, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeOldGuy

hmmmmm..... methinks me recognizes the hosting url and probably the person making this map.

Could be...and how would you know me? From clan [WTF?] or the DOE or someplace?

o_sizeablessonic · 10-10-2006, 02:00 AM

Nice to see something other than two furturistic bases in the middle of nowhere. Keep up the great work, it look great.

*Starts walking like an Egyptian*

o_tfcog · 10-10-2006, 02:54 AM

The cliffs and the trees on the outside of the map really throw everything off. Like other people said, go with more of a desert theme. I think it would be cool if you had a sky cube that could make it look like a court yard out in the middle of the desert, kind of like an oasis.

o_dr_bones · 10-10-2006, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tfcOG

The cliffs and the trees on the outside of the map really throw everything off. Like other people said, go with more of a desert theme. I think it would be cool if you had a sky cube that could make it look like a court yard out in the middle of the desert, kind of like an oasis.

So many idea's...so many things to do. lol Yes, the sky cube has to go with those cliffs. Will be working on a custom sky skybox yet. I'm also trying to stay away from a full egypt type theme and wanted to mix it up, but seems like everyone doesn't like that idea. Oh well, back to work on it I go.

Oh one thing, anyone have any nice blended sand textures? The ones in hl2 also include grass and sort of looks out of place.

o_donny · 10-11-2006, 06:18 AM

No please, go with the theme, just do it like in futuristic mode.
Kinda like this:
http://buf.beyondunreal.com/images/ut2003/face.jpg

And I dont mean to copy that or anything, just make it look like a futuristic old egypt.

o_hica · 10-11-2006, 12:28 PM

Good looking map so far, can't wait to see what it looks like when it's finished. I loved the idea of having the two bases being pyramids...can't get much more Egyptian than that!

o_dr_bones · 10-11-2006, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donny

No please, go with the theme, just do it like in futuristic mode.
Kinda like this:
http://buf.beyondunreal.com/images/ut2003/face.jpg

And I dont mean to copy that or anything, just make it look like a futuristic old egypt.

What I really need are those darn models/meshes converted to HL2. That's the only thing really holding the map back is custom egyptian models. If anyony has any, please let me know.

Also I might have to go L shaped for the top bases, having trouble keeping the fps green/yellow and that's with using all the tricks. Think that would kill the feel of it?

10-09-2006, 04:29 AM	#1
o_dr_bones Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	FF_EgyptianCurse Here are some screenshots of a map I'm currently working on for another ctf mod but plan to convert over to FF also. I noticed someone just started a egypt theme map, but two is better then one..no? It's about 75% done atm and any comments are welcome. Red Spawn Room Trap to Red Flag Room Red Flag Room Hallway on Red Side Red Base Outside Blue Base Outside Red's Outer Courtyard

10-09-2006, 02:35 PM	#8
Mulchman MM Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lacey, WA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Your 33.6 modem hosting has got to go... __________________ Head of the Orca Revolution (TM)

10-09-2006, 02:36 PM	#9
o_own3r Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The theme isn't bad, just make it consistant in alot of those shots its not egyptian http://www.members.shaw.ca/Sir_Thomas/ff_curse5.jpg http://www.members.shaw.ca/Sir_Thomas/ff_curse7.jpg http://www.members.shaw.ca/Sir_Thomas/ff_curse2.jpg O yeah and you may want to make this shot ALOT CLEANER http://www.members.shaw.ca/Sir_Thomas/ff_curse5.jpg get some interesting architecture in there, put in some brocken walls with cliffs exposed or sand in wholes in the floor or no floor at all in some places, theres alot you can do here with egyptian theme some things from deviant art http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/...+age_scale%3A5 http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/...+age_scale%3A5 http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/...e%2Flandscapes http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/...ure%2Fexterior http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/...ure%2Fexterior Last edited by o_own3r; 10-09-2006 at 02:45 PM.

10-09-2006, 04:47 AM	#2
o_jarek Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	cool theme, i like the indoors, but the outdoors doesn't tie in very well with the egyptian concept... sandy textures would do this map wonders, with a more sedementary rock texture

10-09-2006, 08:16 AM	#3
o_docwolfe Join Date: May 2005 Location: Newcastle Upon Tyne, England Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	if its an egyptian theme why are there graves with crucifixes on them?

10-09-2006, 09:39 AM	#4
o_loader Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Portsmouth, England Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	roflcakes

10-09-2006, 01:54 PM	#6
o_donny Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Finland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Looks like one of them UT maps with futuristic egyptian theme. If there werent for them maps. As I have been in egypt, the pyramids didnt look anything like that from inside. Now dont get me wrong, it's a nice start, but still needs lots of loving hand to make it shine like a diamond. So here it is in short: -Nice start -Still needs polishing (75% anyway, that should be obvious) EDIT: -And the textures really need normal maps to make it look not so 2000ish

10-09-2006, 02:32 PM	#7
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It looks like a good start, and I really like the egyptianish textures. I'd add that you should ditch a lot of the spraypaint decals, like those in the second shot.

10-09-2006, 04:49 PM	#10
o_dr_bones Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Well like I said from the start, it is a convert over from another mod. There it's themed more like the conbines have found a secret temple complex and started converting it for a base. When the rebels find out about this, they well of couse decide to fight for it as well...etc... So that's why it has a old/new/odd way to it with the decals ect. Once it get's done for that other mod, then will custom it more towards this one. Just need to find someone to make custom decals/models etc. lol

10-09-2006, 05:27 PM	#11
o_nodnarb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I personally play the HL2CTF mod for HL2 DM, and I would love to see this map with some of the changes above. Whenever I think of an egypt theme I don't think of spraypaint/water/green, but instead dusty dirty wornout. I hpe you take some of the suggestions, and turn it into an excelent map.

10-09-2006, 09:06 PM	#12
o_skull Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	http://www.members.shaw.ca/Sir_Thomas/ff_curse5.jpg please, remove those graphics from the walls they don't match the theme AT ALL. Just my 2 cents.

10-09-2006, 10:09 PM	#13
o_someoldguy Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Just east of the jug handle Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	hmmmmm..... methinks me recognizes the hosting url and probably the person making this map.

10-10-2006, 02:00 AM	#15
o_sizeablessonic Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewere in Nevada Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Nice to see something other than two furturistic bases in the middle of nowhere. Keep up the great work, it look great. Starts walking like an Egyptian

10-10-2006, 02:54 AM	#16
o_tfcog Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The cliffs and the trees on the outside of the map really throw everything off. Like other people said, go with more of a desert theme. I think it would be cool if you had a sky cube that could make it look like a court yard out in the middle of the desert, kind of like an oasis.

10-11-2006, 06:18 AM	#18
o_donny Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Finland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	No please, go with the theme, just do it like in futuristic mode. Kinda like this: http://buf.beyondunreal.com/images/ut2003/face.jpg And I dont mean to copy that or anything, just make it look like a futuristic old egypt.

10-11-2006, 12:28 PM	#19
o_hica Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Connecticut Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Good looking map so far, can't wait to see what it looks like when it's finished. I loved the idea of having the two bases being pyramids...can't get much more Egyptian than that!

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