Hadez was distributing hacks in #ff.pickup

**squeek.** · 07-20-2009, 05:07 AM

Or trying to.

A while ago, someone named "BossStatus" and "bossstatus2" joined #ff.pickup and PMed this to everyone in the channel:

Quote:

[23:52] <BossStatus> Ever wanted to try fortress-forever but don't have time to learn the game? http://www.filedropper.com/***nottherealurl***
[23:52] <BossStatus> a simple way to success

Then, Stiffy showed me this:

And then I checked my logs to see if the date/time matched up. And it did:

Code:

Session Start: Fri Jun 12 23:52:02 2009
Session Ident: BossStatus
[23:52] Session Ident: BossStatus (GameSurge, squeek) (~BossStatu@BossStatus.user.gamesurge)
[23:52] <BossStatus> Ever wanted to try fortress-forever but don't have time to learn the game? http://www.filedropper.com/***nottherealurl***
[23:52] <BossStatus> a simple way to success
01[23:52] <12squeek> OH REALLY?
01[23:52] <12squeek> I AM INTRIGUED
Session Time: Sat Jun 13 00:00:00 2009
Session Close: Sat Jun 13 13:01:34 2009

With timezone differences:

Hadez PM'ed Stiffy on Steam at 2:36am EST June 13th
BossStatus pmed everyone in #ff.pickup at 2:52am EST June 13th

Great job Hadez. Really worth it.

His Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:520114

**Ricey** · 07-20-2009, 05:10 AM

Lawl, what a tool.

GeoKill-----> · 07-20-2009, 05:22 AM

Well I am glad this was handle this quick

Also please you guys do not turns this into a flame fest. Pretty sure this thread is here to inform you not to bash and assumed things that might not be true. So I'm letting Ricey slide but I wont with other ones. Thank You

Skanky Butterpuss · 07-20-2009, 05:25 AM

classy...

PartialSchism · 07-20-2009, 05:50 AM

lol Hadez

**Elmo** · 07-20-2009, 06:07 AM

wp :/

Lateralols` · 07-20-2009, 08:05 AM

fellas

gator

banned cheaters

shocker.

infraction to me for saying this

etc, etc.

but, who the fuck is taking the time to code a cheat for ff?

lordpain · 07-20-2009, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lateralols`

fellas
but, who the fuck is taking the time to code a cheat for ff?

Prolly some loser who can't win or lacks skill to learn....

Just keep posting Steam ID's who cheat so we can update banlists

**Elmo** · 07-20-2009, 09:30 AM

I'd like to point out that there's no proof of him USING the hack.. just distributing it.

But yeah, I still don't get why HedeZ?

thiz · 07-20-2009, 10:21 AM

Anyone got that link? I can't be arsed learning the game.

Well done hadez, your plan was almost flawless, unfortunately you were up against squeek, who is as cunning as a fox what used to be Professor of Cunning at Oxford University, but has moved on, and is now working for the U.N. at the High Commission of International Cunning Planning.

**Ricey** · 07-20-2009, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thiz

Anyone got that link? I can't be arsed learning the game.

Well done hadez, your plan was almost flawless, unfortunately you were up against squeek, who is as cunning as a fox what used to be Professor of Cunning at Oxford University, but has moved on, and is now working for the U.N. at the High Commission of International Cunning Planning.

You sir ... are not Cunning. God, if I see the word Cunning more one time I'll personally kill you thiz.

*Kills Thiz*

Gator- · 07-20-2009, 12:36 PM

Doesn't prove shit. Anyone can go out there and frame a player. Why someone would, I don't know, but this doesn't prove anything. Match concrete evidence such as an ip or you have no case.

Hadez is clean as it stands.

edit:
So yea, lets go ahead and ban a player from the pickup channel with possibly one of the worst submitted evidence yet. At least to me, this is how it works to get someone banned..

Get on steam, change your nickname, pm a friend, talk about cheats, get on IRC with a masked ip, distribute some hacks, match the time zones and date, take a screenshot and there you go, win.

So, watch out guys! You might be the next one banned

I think instead of banning him with this kind of ridiculous evidence, you should be banning those using the cheat. Get something else besides a shitty steam chat screenshot, get him to admit it or match concrete evidence. There's really not much you can do to prove anything in this scenario.

Hadez will continue playing in leagues and whatnot if he decides to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lateralols`

but, who the fuck is taking the time to code a cheat for ff?

If I'm not mistaken, its a wireframe cheat. Those who tried it or still use it can correct me on that since I'm not exactly sure. Pretty sure it works for any source mod, it's not exactly a FF hack.

MonoXideAtWork · 07-20-2009, 01:25 PM

The evidence itself does not prove anything.

What motive does Hadez have to "destroy" the community?

What motive would Stiffy have to frame Hadez?

Rutabeggar · 07-20-2009, 02:42 PM

Can anyone prove that he didn't use the hack? It's one word against the other. It's like saying the guy who sells crack hasn't actually used it, but he is just as guilty for creating other users/addicts. The real question will be if admins really want this kind of trash floating around a small community as it is? If you're honestly trying to build a community, then having it infested with hackers and or accused distributors of said hacks can't be the foundation you build on. Good luck admins, the choice is yours.

ju- · 07-20-2009, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rutabeggar

Can anyone prove that he didn't use the hack? It's one word against the other.

The onus is on the people accusing him of hacking to prove it.

Scuzzy · 07-20-2009, 04:25 PM

Any IP information in the logs on BossStatus?

guy · 07-20-2009, 04:26 PM

Hes done nothing wrong i spose. Can we afford to ban people these days? \o/

**Ricey** · 07-20-2009, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guy

Hes done nothing wrong i spose. Can we afford to ban people these days? \o/

Yes.

And lets say in theory he did give this hack out, so now this puts you in the spot of saying , "Oh this is perfectly fine."

I'm sure Gamesurge(I wish this was rizon, I'd sign on and have the IP in a PM in seconds) wouldn't have a problem to get you the IP and either would valve. May take a while, but it would show who is lying and who is not.

Rutabeggar · 07-20-2009, 04:43 PM

So the general consensus would be that it's "OK" for this kind of garbage to float around the community? I suppose Hadez won't have to destroy FF himself if people won't grow a pair and ban shit like this. Use or not, the intent and probable cause is there. Why make excuses for people like this?

Gr3mLin · 07-20-2009, 05:35 PM

Thats a real shame, Hadez was one of the best nailgun dmers i've ever seen (lol)

07-20-2009, 05:10 AM	#2
Ricey UI Designer Front-End Developer Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2008 Location: Winter Park, FL Class/Position: D Eng Gametype: CTF 9v9 Affiliations: .gr , smr Posts Rated Helpful 46 Times	Lawl, what a tool. __________________ Support FF: Maps : Haste \|Scrummage \|Mulch_Trench Voltage \| Exchange Classic \| Fortsake ricecakes: I demand SGs get a buff squeek.: buy it a gym membership 'I have an eye for design' - Kube 2014

07-20-2009, 05:22 AM	#3
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	Well I am glad this was handle this quick Also please you guys do not turns this into a flame fest. Pretty sure this thread is here to inform you not to bash and assumed things that might not be true. So I'm letting Ricey slide but I wont with other ones. Thank You __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

07-20-2009, 05:25 AM	#4
Skanky Butterpuss Beware the Hammer D&A Member Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: Sabotaging your shit. Affiliations: :}\|, mimic, /KBN/ Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	classy... __________________ Support FF: Etzell: Skanky Etzell: The Wings are fucking fantastic Etzell: They really are Etzell: But even SAYING that makes me want to vomit

07-20-2009, 06:07 AM	#6
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	wp :/ __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999) Last edited by Elmo; 07-20-2009 at 09:31 AM.

07-20-2009, 09:30 AM	#9
Elmo Gets tickled by FF Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: UK Class/Position: Med Solly HW Gametype: Any/CTF Posts Rated Helpful 41 Times	I'd like to point out that there's no proof of him USING the hack.. just distributing it. But yeah, I still don't get why HedeZ? __________________ Support FF: Done: ff_monkey Done: ff_bases Done: ff_warpath Forever Doing: ff_medieval (beta#99999999)

07-20-2009, 05:50 AM	#5
PartialSchism Keep On Keepin' On Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Mississippi Class/Position: Offense Gametype: Fun Affiliations: I'm bad at FF, and my customs suck Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	lol Hadez

07-20-2009, 08:05 AM	#7
Lateralols` You're stumbling a little. Join Date: May 2009 Affiliations: mimic. Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	fellas gator banned cheaters shocker. infraction to me for saying this etc, etc. but, who the fuck is taking the time to code a cheat for ff?

07-20-2009, 10:21 AM	#10
thiz Tealeaf Beta Tester Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Scotland Affiliations: fo! Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Anyone got that link? I can't be arsed learning the game. Well done hadez, your plan was almost flawless, unfortunately you were up against squeek, who is as cunning as a fox what used to be Professor of Cunning at Oxford University, but has moved on, and is now working for the U.N. at the High Commission of International Cunning Planning.

07-20-2009, 01:25 PM	#13
MonoXideAtWork Pub Allstar! Beta Tester Join Date: Aug 2008 Class/Position: under en kvinna Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: Eternal Order, Must be h4x, Mono's happy funtime. Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The evidence itself does not prove anything. What motive does Hadez have to "destroy" the community? What motive would Stiffy have to frame Hadez?

07-20-2009, 02:42 PM	#14
Rutabeggar D&A Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Can anyone prove that he didn't use the hack? It's one word against the other. It's like saying the guy who sells crack hasn't actually used it, but he is just as guilty for creating other users/addicts. The real question will be if admins really want this kind of trash floating around a small community as it is? If you're honestly trying to build a community, then having it infested with hackers and or accused distributors of said hacks can't be the foundation you build on. Good luck admins, the choice is yours. Last edited by Rutabeggar; 07-20-2009 at 03:20 PM.

07-20-2009, 04:25 PM	#16
Scuzzy The Old Timers Clan D&A Member Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Server: 206.217.134.170:27016 Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	Any IP information in the logs on BossStatus? __________________ "Player Quality, not Quantity, is what we strive for." - The LLama Wrangler "A clan is defined by the nature of it's enemies. - The Llama Wrangler

07-20-2009, 04:26 PM	#17
guy Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	Hes done nothing wrong i spose. Can we afford to ban people these days? \o/

07-20-2009, 04:43 PM	#19
Rutabeggar D&A Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	So the general consensus would be that it's "OK" for this kind of garbage to float around the community? I suppose Hadez won't have to destroy FF himself if people won't grow a pair and ban shit like this. Use or not, the intent and probable cause is there. Why make excuses for people like this?

07-20-2009, 05:35 PM	#20
Gr3mLin Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: West Midlands. UK Class/Position: Soldier/Demo/Medic Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: #teamfail Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Thats a real shame, Hadez was one of the best nailgun dmers i've ever seen (lol)

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