Recommend me some-new-piece-of-hardware

o_zydell · 02-09-2007, 08:55 AM

So basically I need:

A new keyboard

USB-Hub pretty much appreciated
Shouldn't be too wide
Ergonomic... I'd like to try out a broken layout if there's a reason for it (I don't care about RSI; I am not convinced that it works against that)
I'm dont prefer a gamer keyboard

So I did some research and first of all I found the microsoft natural ergonomic 4000 (or whatever). Downsides are that it has no USB hub and I hear several people whine about the 'touch' of certain/all keys. Anyone have this keyboard; comments? I also looked at the Logitech G15, allthough I'm not primarily looking for a gamer-keyboard it has everything I want, besides I have been pretty satisfied with logitech in the past. Only downside is that's this keyboard is huge in width.

A multifuctional laser printer

I want ADF (automatic document feed) so I can copy multiple pages with it, without having to use my computer/laptop
Besides a USB I would like a LAN connection
Dont need fax! Don't need color laser printer.
I did some calculations on price/page which ranges from 0.019-0.027 €/page, since I won't be printing that much I don't care too much about this I guess.

The HP LJ 3052 is imho too expensive (both in purchase as well as price/page). Canon has these laserbase printers but they're quite old (dunno if that's a bad thing) so maybe the quality is worse than other printers? I also read some bad reviews... The brother DCP 7025 seems like a nice candidate; anyone have experience with this one?
I'm also very much confused with the print/scan resolutions; some claim 1200x1200dpi optical; other's claim "max. 2400x600dpi" but don't say anything about it being optical or whatever...

Any usefull comments or other possible options would be very much appreciated!

o_nuk3m · 02-09-2007, 11:49 AM

i actaully just saw that keyboard in best busy yesterday. its such an aquard feel as your fingers know where the keys are on a regular keyboard so its like the biggest pain in the ass to type on thse things not to mention the buttons are spaced fuirther apart then normal so in some cases your reaching for the L key and wahtnot

o_led · 02-09-2007, 01:15 PM

GET DUAL SLI 8800GTX FAST !!!

(ohh and the G15 is ok i guess, we use it at work just for the macro-functions. The display is totally useless imo, get the G11 instead. Its the same without the display, and cheaper. And ye, it is a bit wide and took me a while to get used to the macro-buttons on the left side.)

o_zydell · 02-09-2007, 02:33 PM

OMG, dual-SLI USB-version!!!111 (have a laptop xD)

Are those macro buttons of any use in windows/applications? Can I like program them to work in Photoshop or whatever? And will the drivers slow your system down, cause I HATE that!!!

Since I have a laptop I'm also looking at this new Logitech thing called 'Alto'... It has both a USB hub AND it's small; another thing that may come in handy is the display riser PLUS it's black (yay).

**mervaka** · 02-09-2007, 02:41 PM

the flat Logitech DiNovo keyboards are nice, just i'd prefer a corded version.

o_zydell · 02-09-2007, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mervaka

the flat Logitech DiNovo keyboards are nice, just i'd prefer a corded version.

Nah they just look nice

o_|404|innoc-tpf- · 02-09-2007, 06:01 PM

Zydell, I have a number of the 3000 and 3300 series HP's in my operations as Fax's and printers primarily. I've been very happy with their performance. One of my Workhorses is the far more expensive 4345 mfp's. Anyway, I have messed with Canon, Brother and Okidata over the years and I keep coming back to HP because they are, in my experience, reliable. I can go into some of my complaints about the other lines if you like. For me, spending a little more for something I don't have to worry about performing is worth it.

o_zydell · 02-09-2007, 10:04 PM

Thanks for your reply Innoc-TPF-, I do realise that the HP printers are supposedly reliable, but I'll pay about €/$100 more for the printer PLUS the toner is more expensive also. I am prepared to spend more if I get better quality in return for it. It's just that I'm not convinced I will!

Looking at the printer specs, the DCP 7025 does exactly the same and it gets good user reviews. I'm very much interested in your experience with canon/brother (I haven't really looked at OKI since they dont seem to have a laserprinter with ADF under 400$/€).

o_|404|innoc-tpf- · 02-09-2007, 10:41 PM

I've worked with the Brother 4000, 5000 and 7000 series. In my experience Brother seemed to have a real problem with the pickup rollers on the ADF and on the manual feed trays. Also the toner cartridges, while less expensive, had less toner capacity which made more frequent replacement necessary. HP's may be more expensive but you might also get more life out of the cartridge. My last experience with Brother was about 4 years ago.

The Canon's I had were not very stoutly built. Keep in mind that my one office has about 30 people in it so this machine saw alot of use. From broken paper cartridges and trays to feeds. The biggest problem I saw with this machine is that it would not stand up to what I considered to be routine office use. Canon was also outrageously expensive for upgrades and modifications. I still have one Department level machine on lease. When the lease is up this one is going away. I have had my big HP for about 1.5 years and have run about 65,000 pages through it. It's holding up well and the best new feature it brought to the table was scan to email. Fortunately my accounting department continues to treat that as a secret.

o_kam · 02-11-2007, 01:03 AM

It was love at first sight...

(couldn't find a yellow printer

)

o_zydell · 02-11-2007, 09:25 PM

Thanks a lot, that's... damn ugly!

o_zydell · 02-12-2007, 12:25 PM

I ordered the Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 3200; decided to replace both keyboard AND (wired) mouse with this wireless desktop!

I also considered the DiNovo Notebooks desktop but the supplied mouse is crap so I'd have to spend another 50€/$ on a decent mouse since I want to be fully wireless.. (have a MX510 wired mouse at the moment).

Anyone want to share his experience with laserprinters???

02-09-2007, 08:55 AM	#1
o_zydell Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Recommend me some-new-piece-of-hardware So basically I need: A new keyboard USB-Hub pretty much appreciated Shouldn't be too wide Ergonomic... I'd like to try out a broken layout if there's a reason for it (I don't care about RSI; I am not convinced that it works against that) I'm dont prefer a gamer keyboard So I did some research and first of all I found the microsoft natural ergonomic 4000 (or whatever). Downsides are that it has no USB hub and I hear several people whine about the 'touch' of certain/all keys. Anyone have this keyboard; comments? I also looked at the Logitech G15, allthough I'm not primarily looking for a gamer-keyboard it has everything I want, besides I have been pretty satisfied with logitech in the past. Only downside is that's this keyboard is huge in width. A multifuctional laser printer I want ADF (automatic document feed) so I can copy multiple pages with it, without having to use my computer/laptop Besides a USB I would like a LAN connection Dont need fax! Don't need color laser printer. I did some calculations on price/page which ranges from 0.019-0.027 €/page, since I won't be printing that much I don't care too much about this I guess. The HP LJ 3052 is imho too expensive (both in purchase as well as price/page). Canon has these laserbase printers but they're quite old (dunno if that's a bad thing) so maybe the quality is worse than other printers? I also read some bad reviews... The brother DCP 7025 seems like a nice candidate; anyone have experience with this one? I'm also very much confused with the print/scan resolutions; some claim 1200x1200dpi optical; other's claim "max. 2400x600dpi" but don't say anything about it being optical or whatever... Any usefull comments or other possible options would be very much appreciated!

02-09-2007, 02:41 PM	#5
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	the flat Logitech DiNovo keyboards are nice, just i'd prefer a corded version. __________________ Support FF:

02-09-2007, 11:49 AM	#2
o_nuk3m Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersy, USA! reppin' Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i actaully just saw that keyboard in best busy yesterday. its such an aquard feel as your fingers know where the keys are on a regular keyboard so its like the biggest pain in the ass to type on thse things not to mention the buttons are spaced fuirther apart then normal so in some cases your reaching for the L key and wahtnot

02-09-2007, 01:15 PM	#3
o_led Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Misfit, Sweden Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	GET DUAL SLI 8800GTX FAST !!! (ohh and the G15 is ok i guess, we use it at work just for the macro-functions. The display is totally useless imo, get the G11 instead. Its the same without the display, and cheaper. And ye, it is a bit wide and took me a while to get used to the macro-buttons on the left side.)

02-09-2007, 02:33 PM	#4
o_zydell Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	OMG, dual-SLI USB-version!!!111 (have a laptop xD) Are those macro buttons of any use in windows/applications? Can I like program them to work in Photoshop or whatever? And will the drivers slow your system down, cause I HATE that!!! Since I have a laptop I'm also looking at this new Logitech thing called 'Alto'... It has both a USB hub AND it's small; another thing that may come in handy is the display riser PLUS it's black (yay).

02-09-2007, 06:01 PM	#7
o_\|404\|innoc-tpf- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Midtown Express Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Zydell, I have a number of the 3000 and 3300 series HP's in my operations as Fax's and printers primarily. I've been very happy with their performance. One of my Workhorses is the far more expensive 4345 mfp's. Anyway, I have messed with Canon, Brother and Okidata over the years and I keep coming back to HP because they are, in my experience, reliable. I can go into some of my complaints about the other lines if you like. For me, spending a little more for something I don't have to worry about performing is worth it.

02-09-2007, 10:04 PM	#8
o_zydell Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Thanks for your reply Innoc-TPF-, I do realise that the HP printers are supposedly reliable, but I'll pay about €/$100 more for the printer PLUS the toner is more expensive also. I am prepared to spend more if I get better quality in return for it. It's just that I'm not convinced I will! Looking at the printer specs, the DCP 7025 does exactly the same and it gets good user reviews. I'm very much interested in your experience with canon/brother (I haven't really looked at OKI since they dont seem to have a laserprinter with ADF under 400$/€).

02-09-2007, 10:41 PM	#9
o_\|404\|innoc-tpf- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Midtown Express Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I've worked with the Brother 4000, 5000 and 7000 series. In my experience Brother seemed to have a real problem with the pickup rollers on the ADF and on the manual feed trays. Also the toner cartridges, while less expensive, had less toner capacity which made more frequent replacement necessary. HP's may be more expensive but you might also get more life out of the cartridge. My last experience with Brother was about 4 years ago. The Canon's I had were not very stoutly built. Keep in mind that my one office has about 30 people in it so this machine saw alot of use. From broken paper cartridges and trays to feeds. The biggest problem I saw with this machine is that it would not stand up to what I considered to be routine office use. Canon was also outrageously expensive for upgrades and modifications. I still have one Department level machine on lease. When the lease is up this one is going away. I have had my big HP for about 1.5 years and have run about 65,000 pages through it. It's holding up well and the best new feature it brought to the table was scan to email. Fortunately my accounting department continues to treat that as a secret.

02-11-2007, 01:03 AM	#10
o_kam Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	It was love at first sight... (couldn't find a yellow printer )

02-11-2007, 09:25 PM	#11
o_zydell Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Thanks a lot, that's... damn ugly!

02-12-2007, 12:25 PM	#12
o_zydell Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I ordered the Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 3200; decided to replace both keyboard AND (wired) mouse with this wireless desktop! I also considered the DiNovo Notebooks desktop but the supplied mouse is crap so I'd have to spend another 50€/$ on a decent mouse since I want to be fully wireless.. (have a MX510 wired mouse at the moment). Anyone want to share his experience with laserprinters???

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