New update: oodles and oodles... - Page 6

o_hughj · 08-02-2005, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Rock2 is the only prison I know with inverse gas chamber technology.

"...the lights were on out here, while he was safe in there..."

...i'll get my coat

o_eat · 08-02-2005, 07:29 AM

I think someone asked earlier if rock2 was going to have more realistic cells in the prison, to which the answer is yes I believe. Expect the cells to be quite similar to the ones in HL2 in the prison level. The gas chamber will also have an extra route to make capping possible.

o_kam · 08-02-2005, 09:28 AM

Taking any ideas from twilight_l?

o_deezer · 08-02-2005, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eat

The gas chamber will also have an extra route to make capping possible.

I remember capping being the funnest & most frustrating part of that map. If you could make it past 3 sentries, 4 HW's 2 snipers, 6 demoman's pipe-grenades & STILL score then it made you feel pretty darned proud!!

Man I can't wait for this mod to be completed!

o_wicked spider · 08-02-2005, 01:39 PM

ahhh feast to the eyes! awsome media update
the piper looks awsome !!
IMO rock looks a little bit to bright and like others said the floor texture looks a little ackward

o_sensai · 08-02-2005, 01:41 PM

hummer needs spinners

schtoofa · 08-02-2005, 02:51 PM

ridin' spinnas...

o_jackal · 08-02-2005, 03:00 PM

i suppose this means kermit is done with sd2 :P

Jiggles · 08-02-2005, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hughJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Rock2 is the only prison I know with inverse gas chamber technology.

"...the lights were on out here, while he was safe in there..."

...i'll get my coat

Kneel before Zod!

o_blaine · 08-02-2005, 06:34 PM

this looks cool cant wait to see 2fort

o_vampiricus · 08-03-2005, 01:05 AM

Sweet Journal updates guys. Hope craigweb gets his rig assembled soon. nice sound on the detpack too.

o_falcon · 08-03-2005, 12:59 PM

Very nice update!

As for the site changes:

One of the reasons the media page messes up in Firefox is because wrapping anchor tags around divs is a huge no-no in HTML.

Code:

<div class="screenshot_crop" style="background-image: url('./media/thumbs/ff_rock2_2.jpg');" style="cursor:pointer;cursor:hand;"></div>

You can't use an entire div as a link. It's invalid. Just pop it in to an HTML editor like Dreamweaver and turn on invalid syntax highlighting. It's the first thing that pops up.

Also, some of your divs have duplicate attributes (2 style="" for example) which is also invalid.

Code:

<div class="screenshot_crop" style="background-image: url('./media/thumbs/ff_rock2_2.jpg');" style="cursor:pointer;cursor:hand;">

I've done a lot of coding in HTML/CSS, and standards compliant browsers such as Firefox, etc. normally display valid HTML and CSS correctly. The only reason IE is displaying the page correctly is because it's running in quirks mode with your page and not in standards mode. If it was running in standards mode, it would display the same errors as Firefox.

You have to have a header on your page such as:

Code:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
  "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" >

in order to get IE to work in standards mode.

If you get stuck fixing any of the web page errors and need any help fixing them, e-mail me or PM me and I'd be glad to help. I'm glad you're switching everything to CSS based design, but it can be a little tricky at first since designing that way is much less forgiving to invalid syntax.

EDIT: That section of code I pasted you seemed to be the only major error. It's on line 69. Put the <a> inside the <div> instead of outside, and fix the duplicate style="" attributes and it may even work correctly.

o_robg · 08-03-2005, 01:36 PM

Here's the problem with the website not displaying correctly in Firefox, according to the people who matter *.

It's one of these weird mixes of styling where the site's half done in CSS (good and proper separation of content from text) and half done with styling on the page.

Which is weird, cos a nice clean design like that can easily be done with CSS + strict XHTML (and not using tables for main site layout

).

* Firefox doesn't need XHTML Strict, obviously. But we may as well get it right

If you want default markup checking, here it is.

o_falcon · 08-03-2005, 02:19 PM

RobG, I completely agree.

And while every error is a serious one, most of those errors in the W3C Validator are because a block-level element (the DIV tag) is placed inside an inline-level element (the A tag). I have a feeling that most of the display errors are due to that fact. And while it would be great to have every single error on that page fixed, I'd just like to be able to view it in Firefox the way it was meant to be displayed. =)

o_otiz · 08-05-2005, 02:26 PM

Ace, but i was expecting well more.

Circuitous · 08-09-2005, 01:55 AM

I've noticed another problem with the media page in Firefox... it adds "?a=media" twice, and so everything is replaced with a very upset Chiyo-chan.

Defrag · 08-10-2005, 01:21 AM

Thanks for your feedback guys, FB has sorted some of it already. It'll be bug free shortly or we'll flog him into oblivion :P

o_ivaqual · 08-10-2005, 01:33 AM

as far as i know it is now completely bug free when viewed with the latest official firefox build

o_robg · 08-10-2005, 07:35 AM

Coolio, that's better, thanks

As a challenge, get FB to reduce this to zero

08-02-2005, 02:51 PM	#107
schtoofa Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	ridin' spinnas... __________________ schtoofa Fortress Forever Team Cheerleader

08-03-2005, 12:59 PM	#112
o_falcon Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Very nice update! As for the site changes: One of the reasons the media page messes up in Firefox is because wrapping anchor tags around divs is a huge no-no in HTML. Code: <div class="screenshot_crop" style="background-image: url('./media/thumbs/ff_rock2_2.jpg');" style="cursor:pointer;cursor:hand;"></div> You can't use an entire div as a link. It's invalid. Just pop it in to an HTML editor like Dreamweaver and turn on invalid syntax highlighting. It's the first thing that pops up. Also, some of your divs have duplicate attributes (2 style="" for example) which is also invalid. Code: <div class="screenshot_crop" style="background-image: url('./media/thumbs/ff_rock2_2.jpg');" style="cursor:pointer;cursor:hand;"> I've done a lot of coding in HTML/CSS, and standards compliant browsers such as Firefox, etc. normally display valid HTML and CSS correctly. The only reason IE is displaying the page correctly is because it's running in quirks mode with your page and not in standards mode. If it was running in standards mode, it would display the same errors as Firefox. You have to have a header on your page such as: Code: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" > in order to get IE to work in standards mode. If you get stuck fixing any of the web page errors and need any help fixing them, e-mail me or PM me and I'd be glad to help. I'm glad you're switching everything to CSS based design, but it can be a little tricky at first since designing that way is much less forgiving to invalid syntax. EDIT: That section of code I pasted you seemed to be the only major error. It's on line 69. Put the <a> inside the <div> instead of outside, and fix the duplicate style="" attributes and it may even work correctly.

08-09-2005, 01:55 AM	#116
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	I've noticed another problem with the media page in Firefox... it adds "?a=media" twice, and so everything is replaced with a very upset Chiyo-chan. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

08-10-2005, 01:21 AM	#117
Defrag Retired FF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Scotland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Thanks for your feedback guys, FB has sorted some of it already. It'll be bug free shortly or we'll flog him into oblivion :P __________________ Fortress Forever. Level Designer, Gameplay Dude and whatnot.

08-02-2005, 07:29 AM	#102
o_eat Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I think someone asked earlier if rock2 was going to have more realistic cells in the prison, to which the answer is yes I believe. Expect the cells to be quite similar to the ones in HL2 in the prison level. The gas chamber will also have an extra route to make capping possible.

08-02-2005, 09:28 AM	#103
o_kam Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Melbourne Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Taking any ideas from twilight_l?

08-02-2005, 01:39 PM	#105
o_wicked spider Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Israel Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	ahhh feast to the eyes! awsome media update the piper looks awsome !! IMO rock looks a little bit to bright and like others said the floor texture looks a little ackward

08-02-2005, 01:41 PM	#106
o_sensai Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	hummer needs spinners

08-02-2005, 03:00 PM	#108
o_jackal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: CT, USA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i suppose this means kermit is done with sd2 :P

08-02-2005, 06:34 PM	#110
o_blaine Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	this looks cool cant wait to see 2fort

08-03-2005, 01:05 AM	#111
o_vampiricus Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Diego Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Sweet Journal updates guys. Hope craigweb gets his rig assembled soon. nice sound on the detpack too.

08-03-2005, 01:36 PM	#113
o_robg Join Date: May 2005 Location: Nottingham Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Here's the problem with the website not displaying correctly in Firefox, according to the people who matter . It's one of these weird mixes of styling where the site's half done in CSS (good and proper separation of content from text) and half done with styling on the page. Which is weird, cos a nice clean design like that can easily be done with CSS + strict XHTML (and not using tables for main site layout* ). * Firefox doesn't need XHTML Strict, obviously. But we may as well get it right If you want default markup checking, here it is.

08-03-2005, 02:19 PM	#114
o_falcon Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	RobG, I completely agree. And while every error is a serious one, most of those errors in the W3C Validator are because a block-level element (the DIV tag) is placed inside an inline-level element (the A tag). I have a feeling that most of the display errors are due to that fact. And while it would be great to have every single error on that page fixed, I'd just like to be able to view it in Firefox the way it was meant to be displayed. =)

08-05-2005, 02:26 PM	#115
o_otiz Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Iceland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Ace, but i was expecting well more.

08-10-2005, 01:33 AM	#118
o_ivaqual Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Europe, Front Yard Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	as far as i know it is now completely bug free when viewed with the latest official firefox build

08-10-2005, 07:35 AM	#119
o_robg Join Date: May 2005 Location: Nottingham Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Coolio, that's better, thanks As a challenge, get FB to reduce this to zero

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