Meet the soldier trailer is out for TF2.

[AmazingNurseEnrique]

Originally Posted by NoComply

That is the demoman's pipe I believe. I love the glow! There is a lot going on in that clip! It looked like the fun gameplay we love about tfc, carnage, missiles flying, tons of gibs, explosions and speedy gameplay. It reminds me of how much better tfc is than cs. Although wc3 mod is cool for cs, has rpg classes, skills and items to use. It's the next best thing till ff and tf2 come out.

That's like saying Virtua Fighter or Marvel Vs Capcom are the pinncale of fighting games. Ugh.

War3 mod is awful. The balance is poor, the game doesn't support this kind of combat at all, and muddies up the FPS waters with a bunch of needless complication.

[Dospac]

Haaay WC3mod was fun for old CS. I haven't played the Source version though. And yeah, balance was horrible haha..

The concept though is mostly uncharted territory. DotA would work as a CS mod, or as its own standalone online multiplayer FPS.

[Circuitous]

Originally Posted by Iggy

TF2 should be named something else...and be less of a rip off of TFC

Wait, what the fuck is FF, then?

[Desyphur]

Originally Posted by nodnarb

<3

An not in the way your sick twisted mind auto thinks.

[AmazingNurseEnrique]

Originally Posted by Dospac

Haaay WC3mod was fun for old CS. I haven't played the Source version though. And yeah, balance was horrible haha..

The concept though is mostly uncharted territory. DotA would work as a CS mod, or as its own standalone online multiplayer FPS.

Agreed it can be a fun fuck around style game. I guess I was too busy picking apart its design as a "good" game. Fun does not always equal good

[nodnarb]

Originally Posted by Desyphur

An not in the way your sick twisted mind auto thinks.

wow... I wasn't thinking that at all. I was implying Where's the love?

[NoComply]

That's like saying Virtua Fighter or Marvel Vs Capcom are the pinncale of fighting games. Ugh.

No idea what you are talking about.

I'm sorry for being bored of cs:s, it's like dust2 non stop and people always going for kills and not the objective. The ninjaserve wc3 server is always updating the mod, and some of it is pretty fun. Undead lets you cruise around and jump really high, human lets you teleport around a few times, all I'm saying is that it gives it a bit of that feel you know, it's not tfc, not by far. It at least gives some differentiation between the races and manages to change the play mechanics of those boring old maps.

I just want a fun multiplayer game to come out.

[Iggy]

Originally Posted by Circuitous

Wait, what the fuck is FF, then?

FF is OMG SEX!

[Desyphur]

Originally Posted by nodnarb

wow... I wasn't thinking that at all. I was implying Where's the love?

That heart would have a question mark.

?<3?

[paranoidkirb]

Originally Posted by AmazingNurseEnrique

War3 mod is awful.

It really depends on what War3 mod you played. The CS:S ones are god awful and the war3p and war3:ft mods had balance issues but war3x ended up being really great imo.

[GhOsT]

Originally Posted by Iggy

Fortress Forever is what I believe TF2 *SHOULD* be. This is my opinion, and I will stick to it. TF2 should be named something else...and be less of a rip off of TFC(stripped down rip off, I should say).....

I know, god forbid the original developers of both TF and TFC do what they want with the game. Oh, and how do you rip off your own game btw?

[Direhit]

Originally Posted by Iggy

Fortress Forever is what I believe TF2 *SHOULD* be. This is my opinion, and I will stick to it. TF2 should be named something else...and be less of a rip off of TFC(stripped down rip off, I should say).....

If you think TF2 is a rip off of TFC, then surely you consider FF a near replica with new graphics heh.

TF2 is clearly about reinventing Team Fortress, while FF is trying to preserve aspects that are proven winners in the eyes of gamers, though with FF that also means inheriting fundamental flaws in the gameplay that to this day have not been overcome. Though that is certainly not to say TF2 won't have it's flaws either. In the case off TF2 it seems like the predominate thought process when tackling issues was how can we do it different, while with FF it seems like the thought process was how can we improve on TFC. Really the games will speak for which thought process model is better, however I personally think when making a mod with gameplay like TF, you need a healthy mix of both.

[AmazingNurseEnrique]

Originally Posted by paranoidkirb

It really depends on what War3 mod you played. The CS:S ones are god awful and the war3p and war3:ft mods had balance issues but war3x ended up being really great imo.

I meant the CS ones. I did enjoy Stock TFT for awhile. DotA seems popular, but not my cuppa tea.

[Iggy]

Originally Posted by GhOsT

I know, god forbid the original developers of both TF and TFC do what they want with the game. Oh, and how do you rip off your own game btw?

Are you telling me that the original TF team is the group that coded TF2?

[MightyLotu]

well there are 2 guys or more from the original tf team working on tf2
same that did tfc

[Jetpac]

that was awesome, really looking forward to it.

As for pricing and availability:

Amazon has orange box on pre order for £25.99 ($44.99 on amazon.com)

ep 1 was originally $20 on steam so i expect Ep 2 to be $20 (or at tops $25) stand alone.

Tf2 will be marketed as a stand alone game much like CS:S or DoD:S and so i would think it will cost $20 also.

Portal will be $15 (maybe dropping as low as $10)

my thoughts anyway.
they will be released separatly or in different packages, it makes poor marketing sense to not do it.

[SmellyCat]

Seen as this other thread (rather than the FIRST!) meet the solly thread has become more popular, I'll point out again that the soldier in TF2 = offence.

[RiEmuKUpl@]

Boy, did that look awesome or wot =E

[RP.]

Originally Posted by Iggy

Are you telling me that the original TF team is the group that coded TF2?

Robin Walker and Jhon Cook created TF - Both of them works for Valve.

[Dospac]

And both led the dev of TF2. You were joking right? lol