Why don't we include teleporters

o_robg · 07-12-2005, 03:11 PM

...in any new version of Dustbowl?

Hah, bet you thought you could come here and flame me

Seriously, the defence would be crippled without them, heavies would take an *age* to get to the front line when they died. So howabout some one-way teleporters which can be destroyed by the enemy (and rebuilt by defensive engineers) built into the map?

o_frenchtoast · 07-12-2005, 03:13 PM

Because teleporters are gay.

o_weetbix · 07-12-2005, 03:43 PM

i thought we were finished long ago on this topic

**mervaka** · 07-12-2005, 04:00 PM

if getting defence around is THAT much of a problem, let the mappers create their own teles

o_ivaqual · 07-12-2005, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FrenchToast

Because teleporters are gay.

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Originally Posted by weetbix

i thought we were finished long ago on this topic

o_drtom · 07-12-2005, 04:38 PM

er, dustbowl has managed just fine without teleporters why would the map suddenly suck without them ???

**mervaka** · 07-12-2005, 04:41 PM

note i was not bringing the argument of "why cant we build teles? boohoo" i was merely finding a workaround of the def problems on large maps

o_player · 07-12-2005, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by drtom

er, dustbowl has managed just fine without teleporters why would the map suddenly suck without them ???

o_etzell · 07-12-2005, 05:59 PM

Simple: the defence taking so long is why that map is balanced. Fucking damn.

o_stino · 07-12-2005, 06:12 PM

for some reason i can't build teleporters in TFC any more, and the defenders keep winning

**mervaka** · 07-12-2005, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Etzell

Simple: the defence taking so long is why that map is balanced. Fucking damn.

i mean like HUGE maps like mine, which may need some sort of transport system to get around, else O will just be able to walk in/out unchallenged

o_fathom · 07-12-2005, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mervaka

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etzell

Simple: the defence taking so long is why that map is balanced. Fucking damn.

i mean like HUGE maps like mine, which may need some sort of transport system to get around, else O will just be able to walk in/out unchallenged

Then that is a ballance issue that you need to work out on your own.

o_travis dane · 07-12-2005, 07:12 PM

Just put in a custom-made teleporter, you can do that even with the ol' TFC, so no doubt it'll be possible with HL2's basic entities.

**mervaka** · 07-12-2005, 08:45 PM

my point :)

o_valk · 07-13-2005, 01:25 AM

well do it then

maybe u meant to post on www.blogger.com

o_osiris · 07-13-2005, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by nagual678

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrenchToast

Because teleporters are gay.

Quote:

Originally Posted by weetbix

i thought we were finished long ago on this topic

o_fresh · 07-13-2005, 10:07 AM

the whole point fo dustbowl is to "push the defence back" to a vantage point where you can cap. If teleporters were there then defence could indeed NEVER be pushed back and even hit the attack form the rear, it would destroy the flow of dustbowl (yeah even dustbowl has a flow).

o_zsilver_fox · 07-13-2005, 09:23 PM

There's this beautiful entity called trigger_teleport. It was used extensively in TFC. Also, func_train was too.

FF just MIGHT include these... we never know.

Idiot.

o_epothon · 07-13-2005, 09:26 PM

tisk tisk, not very nice to add Idiot in smallprint there zSilver_Fox

o_robg · 07-14-2005, 08:32 AM

Yes ladies thank you for the abuse. I pub Dustbowl at the moment on TFC 1.5 and there are teleporters, but it's not defense-biased play.

Whichever member of the forum's intelligentsia said that defence could come round behind attackers is obviously being ironic, as I mentioned that the teleporters could be destroyed by the opposing team, same as normal teleporters.

I'm just thinking of times like the third stage of Dustbowl where actually the defence have to run for ages before they get to the initial choke point, and if a couple of attackers get a couple of lucky kills on HWGuys defending then they have massively free reign for ages as the HWGuys are probably only slightly faster than continental drift.

07-12-2005, 03:11 PM	#1
o_robg Join Date: May 2005 Location: Nottingham Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Why don't we include teleporters ...in any new version of Dustbowl? Hah, bet you thought you could come here and flame me Seriously, the defence would be crippled without them, heavies would take an age to get to the front line when they died. So howabout some one-way teleporters which can be destroyed by the enemy (and rebuilt by defensive engineers) built into the map?

07-12-2005, 03:13 PM	#2
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Because teleporters are gay.

07-12-2005, 03:43 PM	#3
o_weetbix Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	i thought we were finished long ago on this topic

07-12-2005, 04:00 PM	#4
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	if getting defence around is THAT much of a problem, let the mappers create their own teles

07-12-2005, 04:38 PM	#6
o_drtom Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	er, dustbowl has managed just fine without teleporters why would the map suddenly suck without them ???

07-12-2005, 04:41 PM	#7
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	note i was not bringing the argument of "why cant we build teles? boohoo" i was merely finding a workaround of the def problems on large maps

07-12-2005, 05:59 PM	#9
o_etzell Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Simple: the defence taking so long is why that map is balanced. Fucking damn.

07-12-2005, 06:12 PM	#10
o_stino Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	for some reason i can't build teleporters in TFC any more, and the defenders keep winning

07-12-2005, 07:12 PM	#13
o_travis dane Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Down here Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Just put in a custom-made teleporter, you can do that even with the ol' TFC, so no doubt it'll be possible with HL2's basic entities.

07-12-2005, 08:45 PM	#14
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	my point :)

07-13-2005, 01:25 AM	#15
o_valk Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Australia Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	well do it then maybe u meant to post on www.blogger.com

07-13-2005, 10:07 AM	#17
o_fresh Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brum. Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	the whole point fo dustbowl is to "push the defence back" to a vantage point where you can cap. If teleporters were there then defence could indeed NEVER be pushed back and even hit the attack form the rear, it would destroy the flow of dustbowl (yeah even dustbowl has a flow).

07-13-2005, 09:23 PM	#18
o_zsilver_fox Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	There's this beautiful entity called trigger_teleport. It was used extensively in TFC. Also, func_train was too. FF just MIGHT include these... we never know. Idiot.

07-13-2005, 09:26 PM	#19
o_epothon Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Belgium Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	tisk tisk, not very nice to add Idiot in smallprint there zSilver_Fox

07-14-2005, 08:32 AM	#20
o_robg Join Date: May 2005 Location: Nottingham Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yes ladies thank you for the abuse. I pub Dustbowl at the moment on TFC 1.5 and there are teleporters, but it's not defense-biased play. Whichever member of the forum's intelligentsia said that defence could come round behind attackers is obviously being ironic, as I mentioned that the teleporters could be destroyed by the opposing team, same as normal teleporters. I'm just thinking of times like the third stage of Dustbowl where actually the defence have to run for ages before they get to the initial choke point, and if a couple of attackers get a couple of lucky kills on HWGuys defending then they have massively free reign for ages as the HWGuys are probably only slightly faster than continental drift.

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