Jump and B-hop specs

o_iron.man · 02-19-2007, 06:09 PM

I was wondering if someone could post the specs on jumping and bunny hopping. I am looking for how high you can get with each of the following. I could not find this information anywhere, so if someone could post it or direct me to where I can find it that would be great.

I want to know how high in terms of units so that I know how high to make things so that they can be accessed by these jumps.
I need to know how high you can get with...

Rocket Jump
Double Rocket Jump
Rocket/Grenade Jump
Conc Jump
Double Conc Jump
DemoMan Pipe Jump
Grenade Jump
Bunny Hop (what is the highest box you can jump onto and jump off of still keeping the b-hop speed)

If there are any others I am missing please post the stuff for that too.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me with this.

o_zsilver_fox · 02-19-2007, 08:12 PM

The conc/rocket/pipe jumps vary based on timing... unless you mean a non-jumping vertical acceleration.

o_iron.man · 02-19-2007, 10:06 PM

... I want to know what is the highest you can get. Or I guess the average height would work too. I just need to know so that I know how high to make battlements and other things so that they can be reached by those means.

o_gambit · 02-19-2007, 10:52 PM

maybe this will help

http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w...ing_Dimensions

o_nodnarb · 02-19-2007, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GambiT

maybe this will help

http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w...ing_Dimensions

thats good for HL2:DM, but its most likely going to be different in Fortress Forever.

o_a boojum snark · 02-20-2007, 01:00 AM

I'm thinking none of this will be know until perhaps a year or more after release once everyone has learned all the peculiarities (I'm assuming the devs are unable to make it exactly like it was in TFC, though close).

o_sta_sirtiger · 02-20-2007, 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Boojum Snark

the devs are unable to make it exactly like it was in TFC, though close).

Stop reminding me the future of FF

o_nezumi · 02-20-2007, 09:01 AM

I think the devs are making it pretty damn close. Things like basic jump and step height can easily be made exactly the same. And all the measurements here http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w...ing_Dimensions are wrong by <1 unit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by that article

This is the minimum distance, in units, that can be between the ground and an object while still allowing the player to pass underneath.

Crouched: 37
Standing: 73

The actual numbers are '> 36' and '>72'

o_gambit · 02-20-2007, 11:59 AM

^...correct

i want to say i read that the dimensions were going to stay pretty much the same in FF as in TFC...

i may be wrong...

o_iron.man · 02-20-2007, 12:28 PM

Im not so much worried about the actual player jump heights. I am more interested in rocket jump heights, grenade jump heights, and so on. I could make a very simple level with different sized walls, and the devs could run through it really quick and figure everything out. I think this information would help EVERYONE that is making a map for FF. I mean, how are we supposed to know how high to make areas we want people to rocket jump to, if we have no clue how hight they can get in FF.

So devs, if you want me to make a really quick level with different sized walls so you can test this and help your mapping community out, please let me know and ill make the map and send you the .vmf and you can compile it and do the testing.

o_nodnarb · 02-20-2007, 01:00 PM

you can compile it...

o_iron.man · 02-20-2007, 01:53 PM

... how can I compile it for FF, if I do not have FF... a map made for HL2DM, will not work for FF... or at least it shouldnt... And even if I can compile it, how can I test it for FF when I do not have FF...

o_luminous · 02-20-2007, 03:42 PM

complile it for hl2dm to make sure everything seems like itll run smoothly, then when FF is released put in all of the appropriate entities etc, recompile and bam your map is done

Jiggles · 02-20-2007, 04:02 PM

Yeah I really can't say, since we're still tweakin all these values. If you really want to make it right now, I'd make it as close to TFC as possible.

02-19-2007, 06:09 PM	#1
o_iron.man Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Jump and B-hop specs I was wondering if someone could post the specs on jumping and bunny hopping. I am looking for how high you can get with each of the following. I could not find this information anywhere, so if someone could post it or direct me to where I can find it that would be great. I want to know how high in terms of units so that I know how high to make things so that they can be accessed by these jumps. I need to know how high you can get with... Rocket Jump Double Rocket Jump Rocket/Grenade Jump Conc Jump Double Conc Jump DemoMan Pipe Jump Grenade Jump Bunny Hop (what is the highest box you can jump onto and jump off of still keeping the b-hop speed) If there are any others I am missing please post the stuff for that too. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help me with this.

02-19-2007, 08:12 PM	#2
o_zsilver_fox Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	The conc/rocket/pipe jumps vary based on timing... unless you mean a non-jumping vertical acceleration.

02-19-2007, 10:06 PM	#3
o_iron.man Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	... I want to know what is the highest you can get. Or I guess the average height would work too. I just need to know so that I know how high to make battlements and other things so that they can be reached by those means.

02-19-2007, 10:52 PM	#4
o_gambit Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	maybe this will help http://developer.valvesoftware.com/w...ing_Dimensions

02-20-2007, 01:00 AM	#6
o_a boojum snark Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Orion Arm Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I'm thinking none of this will be know until perhaps a year or more after release once everyone has learned all the peculiarities (I'm assuming the devs are unable to make it exactly like it was in TFC, though close).

02-20-2007, 11:59 AM	#9
o_gambit Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	^...correct i want to say i read that the dimensions were going to stay pretty much the same in FF as in TFC... i may be wrong...

02-20-2007, 12:28 PM	#10
o_iron.man Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Im not so much worried about the actual player jump heights. I am more interested in rocket jump heights, grenade jump heights, and so on. I could make a very simple level with different sized walls, and the devs could run through it really quick and figure everything out. I think this information would help EVERYONE that is making a map for FF. I mean, how are we supposed to know how high to make areas we want people to rocket jump to, if we have no clue how hight they can get in FF. So devs, if you want me to make a really quick level with different sized walls so you can test this and help your mapping community out, please let me know and ill make the map and send you the .vmf and you can compile it and do the testing.

02-20-2007, 01:00 PM	#11
o_nodnarb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	you can compile it...

02-20-2007, 01:53 PM	#12
o_iron.man Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	... how can I compile it for FF, if I do not have FF... a map made for HL2DM, will not work for FF... or at least it shouldnt... And even if I can compile it, how can I test it for FF when I do not have FF...

02-20-2007, 03:42 PM	#13
o_luminous Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	complile it for hl2dm to make sure everything seems like itll run smoothly, then when FF is released put in all of the appropriate entities etc, recompile and bam your map is done

02-20-2007, 04:02 PM	#14
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah I really can't say, since we're still tweakin all these values. If you really want to make it right now, I'd make it as close to TFC as possible.

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