TF2 Dustbowl(valley?) screenshot - Page 2

Jiggles · 11-14-2006, 12:49 PM

Add in a bunch of robotic vacuum cleaners, and call it "bowl"

o_ihmhi · 11-14-2006, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Defrag

Valve has been working on TF2 for ages, so the assertion that they may have copied our dustbowl theme is ridiculous. Do you know how long it takes to build maps & art assets to the standard Valve aspires to? If you did, you'd know that there's no way in hell they could suddenly pull that out of the bag in such a short time. The chances are that they've been working on the (current incarnation of) dustbowl for as long or longer than we have, and certainly many times longer in terms of man-hours.

As others have pointed out, the rustic 2fort screenshot was also released before FF's dustbowl trailer saw the light of day -- we had a smile to ourselves at the time because, without context, it looked a bit like the dusbowl stuff we'd been working on in terms of style. We hadn't shown dustbowl at the time, and valve's 2fort has a similar run-down artistic style. I.e. there's no way in hell they copied us, so knock that notion on the head right now.

Unless you have a spy in the ranks...

I mean I have always wondered about Mulch's Cayman Islands accounts.

o_tyrus · 11-14-2006, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ekiM

What else would you do with Dustbowl?

I'd make a silvery, futuristic Unreal Tournament looking map. Duh. Jeez, you guys just have no creativity bones in your whole body.

MrBeefy · 11-14-2006, 01:39 PM

I'm pretty sure that the initial build of Dustbowl for TFC woulda been a ghost town had they been able to (without time/resource limitations.)

o_pussyhunter · 11-14-2006, 02:53 PM

If this map follows the 2fort theme, then by cap point 3 you'll probably be fighting in a some sort of hi-tech futuristic industrial type scenario...

o_psycnet · 11-14-2006, 03:01 PM

All I was really saying was that if in fact they had wanted to be arseholes and do a jerky thing (not they necessarily did) they would only have had to release a very partial part of the map, seeing as the pic is ovf a finished model and about 1/10th of the whole thing.

As well, the article mentions the three maps they are working on are 2fort, dustbowl, and well, though I'm sure they have a few more on the burner

o_ghost · 11-14-2006, 03:05 PM

Again, all classic Valve maps. Of course they are going to be remaking those. It's not like they saw that FF was doing them so they have to do them as well.

Also, why would they try to piss off a community of people who are very much likely to play their game?

o_gunslinger · 11-14-2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GhOsT

Again, all classic Valve maps. Of course they are going to be remaking those. It's not like they saw that FF was doing them so they have to do them as well.

Also, why would they try to piss off a community of people who are very much likely to play their game?

Again, apart from dustbowl, I think (not 100% sure, cry me a river if wrong) they were around before Valve.

I hardly think that copying FF (even if they did, which they haven't) is hardly likely to alienate a whole community; maybe one or two gimps up the FF dev arses, but that's about it. Obviously the devs themselves would be rightfully crying themselves to sleep every night, but then I'd be the same.

o_ghost · 11-14-2006, 03:53 PM

Yes, they were around before Valve. Course, 2fort was the original TF map designed by John Cook who was hired by Valve. The Well would be the only one not originally created by a member of TFS or Valve. That was created by Sgt. Thundercok, who also made The Rock.

Also, I was responding to PsYcNeT who was hinting at Valve making Dustbowl look like that just to compete against FF.

Circuitous · 11-14-2006, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PussyHunter

If this map follows the 2fort theme, then by cap point 3 you'll probably be fighting in a some sort of hi-tech futuristic industrial type scenario...

Would be neat.

o_nuk3m · 11-14-2006, 04:47 PM

who cares valve is full of faggots anyways. valve sucks.

o_groovyf · 11-14-2006, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nukem373

who cares valve is full of faggots anyways. valve sucks.

FF fanboi!

o_exr8ed · 11-14-2006, 06:52 PM

How can you say Valve sucks.. when it created the engine that this mod will be played on... only problem Valve has is that it delays products, and sometimes the gameplay is not the way most people want. ie: CS 1.6 to CS:S. and DoD to DoD:S. Aside from Steam having its small errors and problems every now and then... look at how much it has helped us on a larger scale.. not having to DL server and client updates from websites and mirrors etc.. waiting 3 hours for fileplanet.. anyway, saying "Valve sucks" is just completely absurd.

o_darknight · 11-14-2006, 08:14 PM

There's surely no way they can mess up as much as they have done previously, so TF2 has a good chance.

o_shadow34721 · 11-14-2006, 08:21 PM

funny how an outsider will think ff is ripping off tf2. lol

i miss the "arena" style dustbowl

**mervaka** · 11-14-2006, 09:34 PM

imo they were both independently created. there's no way the FF team could have seen the TF2 dustbowl early, and there's no way even valve could have made that dustbowl map in response to FF in that period of time.

o_nezumi · 11-14-2006, 10:24 PM

Well, like someone said right now they just have 1 screenshot, not necessarily a whole map.

o_etzell · 11-15-2006, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by nukem373

who cares valve is full of faggots anyways. valve sucks.

I love how you jump all over anyone who even comes CLOSE to criticizing the FF devs, but turn around and say something equally ignorant about Valve.

o_osiris · 11-15-2006, 12:39 AM

What's even funnier is that without them, none of this would be what it is today

o_etherealrage · 11-15-2006, 04:13 AM

Enough with the conspiracy theories, go play a console or something ffs.

11-14-2006, 09:34 PM	#36
mervaka A Very Sound Guy! Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts Rated Helpful 15 Times	imo they were both independently created. there's no way the FF team could have seen the TF2 dustbowl early, and there's no way even valve could have made that dustbowl map in response to FF in that period of time. __________________ Support FF:

11-14-2006, 12:49 PM	#21
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Add in a bunch of robotic vacuum cleaners, and call it "bowl"

11-14-2006, 01:39 PM	#24
MrBeefy Retired FF Staff Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: detroit Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I'm pretty sure that the initial build of Dustbowl for TFC woulda been a ghost town had they been able to (without time/resource limitations.)

11-14-2006, 02:53 PM	#25
o_pussyhunter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Northampton, England Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	If this map follows the 2fort theme, then by cap point 3 you'll probably be fighting in a some sort of hi-tech futuristic industrial type scenario...

11-14-2006, 03:01 PM	#26
o_psycnet Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Calgary, Canada eh? Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	All I was really saying was that if in fact they had wanted to be arseholes and do a jerky thing (not they necessarily did) they would only have had to release a very partial part of the map, seeing as the pic is ovf a finished model and about 1/10th of the whole thing. As well, the article mentions the three maps they are working on are 2fort, dustbowl, and well, though I'm sure they have a few more on the burner

11-14-2006, 03:05 PM	#27
o_ghost Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Again, all classic Valve maps. Of course they are going to be remaking those. It's not like they saw that FF was doing them so they have to do them as well. Also, why would they try to piss off a community of people who are very much likely to play their game?

11-14-2006, 03:53 PM	#29
o_ghost Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yes, they were around before Valve. Course, 2fort was the original TF map designed by John Cook who was hired by Valve. The Well would be the only one not originally created by a member of TFS or Valve. That was created by Sgt. Thundercok, who also made The Rock. Also, I was responding to PsYcNeT who was hinting at Valve making Dustbowl look like that just to compete against FF.

11-14-2006, 04:47 PM	#31
o_nuk3m Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Jersy, USA! reppin' Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	who cares valve is full of faggots anyways. valve sucks.

11-14-2006, 06:52 PM	#33
o_exr8ed Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	How can you say Valve sucks.. when it created the engine that this mod will be played on... only problem Valve has is that it delays products, and sometimes the gameplay is not the way most people want. ie: CS 1.6 to CS:S. and DoD to DoD:S. Aside from Steam having its small errors and problems every now and then... look at how much it has helped us on a larger scale.. not having to DL server and client updates from websites and mirrors etc.. waiting 3 hours for fileplanet.. anyway, saying "Valve sucks" is just completely absurd.

11-14-2006, 08:14 PM	#34
o_darknight Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Yorkshire Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	There's surely no way they can mess up as much as they have done previously, so TF2 has a good chance.

11-14-2006, 08:21 PM	#35
o_shadow34721 Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	funny how an outsider will think ff is ripping off tf2. lol i miss the "arena" style dustbowl

11-14-2006, 10:24 PM	#37
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Well, like someone said right now they just have 1 screenshot, not necessarily a whole map.

11-15-2006, 12:39 AM	#39
o_osiris Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: In your pants. Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	What's even funnier is that without them, none of this would be what it is today

11-15-2006, 04:13 AM	#40
o_etherealrage Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Enough with the conspiracy theories, go play a console or something ffs.

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