hell yeah, i love source

o_stino · 12-30-2006, 09:05 AM

ok 360 fps on a huge map, no vis, the whole grid, all displacements, no fog. just love the space, if only you could use the prop_vehicle_jeep in FF it whould own!

i think i can make a vehicle for this map but thruster based, it whould own if you could parent a player to a physbox, no more shaking in mp, is this possible?
i'm a bit confused, badlands is 34 mb, and if you whould count the triangles it whould be a quarter of this amount, but why is the file 30 times larger? is world geometry that expensive in file size?

this is the full grid used in a single map of 9MB!!!!!
http://www.sgware.net/images/gallery...s/test0000.jpg

and this is a combine on that map:
http://www.sgware.net/images/gallery...s/test0001.jpg

o_ginger lord · 12-30-2006, 01:05 PM

Just wait till you add stuff, the fps jumps down dramatically. Ive tried it.

World geometry and entities take up lots of space, displacements are just coordinates. Entities have that plus all the flags and data, not to mention lightmaps.

o_stino · 12-30-2006, 02:10 PM

no problem, i can compile again, thats what really matters
only one question, why does the game crash when there is a info_player_rebel or info_player_combine in the map?

EDIT: what did you try? i have 4 buildings now, and lots of props, still 200 fps. the fog make drop fps more than the props, but its not nice when you see props fading out with no reason

o_bumgravy · 12-30-2006, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stino

steam is stopping me from compiling, compiling means crashing the game when loading the freshly compiled bsp, even with an empty map with just a sky and a playerstart

What was your problem then? Sharing is caring!

And remember if your using Fog you can adjust the back clipping plane to stop the engine drawing objects that are invisible because of fog anyway.

o_imbrifer · 12-30-2006, 06:55 PM

The FF team has stated that they have solved the brush-shaky bug, which is what gave me the go-ahead to make 'sky' way back when. So go ahead and make a vehicle, but brush-based vehicles are scary...

And careful about large wide-open spaces - mobility in FF won't be as easy as it is in Tribes, even with vehicles. Trouble is, if you spawn and want to go for the flag but all of your team's vehicles are parked elsewhere, you're S.O.L. Course you could do some creative teleporty-thing, which would be keen.

o_bumgravy · 12-30-2006, 08:05 PM

Pacman style, in one side out the other

o_stino · 12-30-2006, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BumGravy

What was your problem then? Sharing is caring!

And remember if your using Fog you can adjust the back clipping plane to stop the engine drawing objects that are invisible because of fog anyway.

where do i find back clipping plane?

o_stino · 12-30-2006, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imbrifer

The FF team has stated that they have solved the brush-shaky bug, which is what gave me the go-ahead to make 'sky' way back when. So go ahead and make a vehicle, but brush-based vehicles are scary...

And careful about large wide-open spaces - mobility in FF won't be as easy as it is in Tribes, even with vehicles. Trouble is, if you spawn and want to go for the flag but all of your team's vehicles are parked elsewhere, you're S.O.L. Course you could do some creative teleporty-thing, which would be keen.

i can make models, but i donno how to compile an smd to mdl, but thats not a problem for now.

about large wide open spaces:

vehicle/ jump pads/teleports, ut style

i love those fast movement methods

oops back a dubble post

o_sh4x · 12-31-2006, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stino

no problem, i can compile again, thats what really matters
only one question, why does the game crash when there is a info_player_rebel or info_player_combine in the map?

Because you didn't check the teamplay box in the server config.

o__mj_ · 01-03-2007, 07:15 AM

wtf is this?

o_stino · 01-03-2007, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sh4x

Because you didn't check the teamplay box in the server config.

oh , its not becouse i have info_player_rebel/combine then but becouse i DON'T have info_player_deathmatch?

o_nodnarb · 01-03-2007, 02:48 PM

I only have info_player_start

12-30-2006, 09:05 AM	#1
o_stino Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	hell yeah, i love source ok 360 fps on a huge map, no vis, the whole grid, all displacements, no fog. just love the space, if only you could use the prop_vehicle_jeep in FF it whould own! i think i can make a vehicle for this map but thruster based, it whould own if you could parent a player to a physbox, no more shaking in mp, is this possible? i'm a bit confused, badlands is 34 mb, and if you whould count the triangles it whould be a quarter of this amount, but why is the file 30 times larger? is world geometry that expensive in file size? this is the full grid used in a single map of 9MB!!!!! http://www.sgware.net/images/gallery...s/test0000.jpg and this is a combine on that map: http://www.sgware.net/images/gallery...s/test0001.jpg Last edited by trepid_jesse; 01-03-2007 at 07:27 AM.

12-30-2006, 02:10 PM	#3
o_stino Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	no problem, i can compile again, thats what really matters only one question, why does the game crash when there is a info_player_rebel or info_player_combine in the map? EDIT: what did you try? i have 4 buildings now, and lots of props, still 200 fps. the fog make drop fps more than the props, but its not nice when you see props fading out with no reason Last edited by o_stino; 12-30-2006 at 02:38 PM.

12-30-2006, 01:05 PM	#2
o_ginger lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Carlisle, UK Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Just wait till you add stuff, the fps jumps down dramatically. Ive tried it. World geometry and entities take up lots of space, displacements are just coordinates. Entities have that plus all the flags and data, not to mention lightmaps.

12-30-2006, 06:55 PM	#5
o_imbrifer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Changes every few months Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The FF team has stated that they have solved the brush-shaky bug, which is what gave me the go-ahead to make 'sky' way back when. So go ahead and make a vehicle, but brush-based vehicles are scary... And careful about large wide-open spaces - mobility in FF won't be as easy as it is in Tribes, even with vehicles. Trouble is, if you spawn and want to go for the flag but all of your team's vehicles are parked elsewhere, you're S.O.L. Course you could do some creative teleporty-thing, which would be keen.

12-30-2006, 08:05 PM	#6
o_bumgravy Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Pacman style, in one side out the other

01-03-2007, 07:15 AM	#10
o__mj_ Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	wtf is this?

01-03-2007, 02:48 PM	#12
o_nodnarb Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I only have info_player_start

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