Vista "Performance and Compatiblity" packs released

SomeOldGuy · 08-08-2007, 03:28 PM

Not currently part of Windows update, from my understanding....

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...-released.html

SizeableSSonic · 08-08-2007, 03:35 PM

NO MORE DRIVER FAILURES FOR ME!

HOORAY!

Deadly Furby · 08-08-2007, 03:41 PM

Microsoft issues emergency fixes for Vista

A few hundred megabytes short of a service pack

By Andrew Thomas: Wednesday 08 August 2007, 12:52

MICROSOFT HAS ISSUED two updates for Vista, rated 'important', that address performance and reliability problems. The updates have a combined size of 5.7Mb and both require a system restart. They have yet to be made available through Windows Update. Both 32 and 64 bit versions of Vista are affected.

The fixes have been floating around in beta guise for a few weeks, but fall well short of being the rumoured Vista SP1 discussed on the sort of forums that discuss such things. Downloading and installing the patches is quick and easy apart from the annoyance of two restarts. No noticeable performance oreliability improvements are immediately apparent on the two machines we tried it on (2 Gig 2.7GHz Core 2 Duo and 768MB 2.4GHz P4), but they were already pretty fast and reliable anyway.

Performance problems have cropped up with screen savers, network printers, corrupt AVI files, slow response times and corrupted RAW files with some Canon cameras. More serious problems addressed by the patch include corruption of offline files and machines forgetting their default gateway addresses. Memory management has also been improved, says the company.

Reliability improvements cover display drivers, PPP network connections and unexpected restarts.

More details here and here

Zydell · 08-08-2007, 03:56 PM

Yeah and WP to my fucking laptopmanufacturer for not providing support for the ati radeon mobility 9000. I tried playing TFC yesterday (on Vista); I got a stable 10-20fps

, not bad for a Centrino 1.6GHz. with 1.5GB of RAM ey? (I just see that they've released an update btw

). I also mailed microsoft today if I can switch vista business oem for xp prof. oem, hope that works

Innoc · 08-08-2007, 04:32 PM

That puzzles me that they refer to it as the "rumored" SP. MS themselves had information on their site about it. Rumor doesn't seem like the right word for it when it comes from them directly.

StatisticZ · 08-08-2007, 06:27 PM

I hope Vista is as stable as Windows XP (even tho xp aint exactly stable itself, and I'm hoping for too much from Microsoft) in a few months, I will probably be getting Ultimate for my computer I'm currently building.

SizeableSSonic · 08-08-2007, 06:55 PM

I just installed them both....

and I can play games without driver failure!

Anshinritsumai · 08-08-2007, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deadly Furby

More serious problems addressed by the patch include corruption of offline files and machines forgetting their default gateway addresses.

That seems to be the only problem I get with Vista Ultimate... my internet will randomly shut off because it loses the DNS and all that jazz....

SizeableSSonic · 08-08-2007, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anshinritsumai

That seems to be the only problem I get with Vista Ultimate... my internet will randomly shut off because it loses the DNS and all that jazz....

That seems to be gone, too.

I have to say, these two little patches have really made Vista work like a charm.

Ihmhi · 08-08-2007, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [StatisticZ]

I hope Vista is as stable as Windows XP

Ha ha ha ha ha ha... ha ha ha ha... *breathe* ha ha ha ha ha...

Yeah, that would be a NO. Stick with XP. Installing Vista on your system is probably the dumbest thing you can do if you are a gamer. Or, ya know, you like to use your computer as something more than a several hundred dollar paperweight.

SizeableSSonic · 08-08-2007, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ihmhi

Ha ha ha ha ha ha... ha ha ha ha... *breathe* ha ha ha ha ha...

Yeah, that would be a NO. Stick with XP. Installing Vista on your system is probably the dumbest thing you can do if you are a gamer. Or, ya know, you like to use your computer as something more than a several hundred dollar paperweight.

Hmmm... then how come I can play games just dandy?

Very soon, Vista will be the standard, whether you like it or not. Get used to it. People said the same thing ab XP- and 98, when that came out. And 95, when that came out. That's the way things work.

StrickNine · 08-09-2007, 01:40 AM

I don't recall people saying that about xp.

Jiggles · 08-09-2007, 01:46 AM

Yeah, XP's debut was pretty good, by Windows standards anyway.

SizeableSSonic · 08-09-2007, 04:44 AM

I can quote from memory at the very least, a dozen times were people said one should stick with 98.

Even if Vista DID suck- it's still gonna be the standard, because that's all people are really going to get, nothing else is packaged with new desktops, so yea, eventually, one will have to upgrade...

Well, to be more specific, they won't HAVE to, because most games will probably still support XP, but once their old PC dies, and they have to get a new one... MS probably won't be producing XP too much longer, and Vista is, again, going to be on most new desktops.

Innoc · 08-09-2007, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggles

Yeah, XP's debut was pretty good, by Windows standards anyway.

MS was quicker about addressing some of the early issues with XP. Remember the UPNP vulnerability? IIRC a fix for that released within the first month. The bug issues with XP and Vista have been different though. With XP it was exploits that were discovered. And remember the HUGE performance hit when SP1 release for XP? With Vista they've had some exploits but MS has downplayed their significance. What I hear more of with Vista is issues with the overly restrictive security environment.

Zydell · 08-09-2007, 05:03 PM

Fuck Microsoft, I contacted them asking if it was possible to downgrade from Vista Business OEM to XP Prof; and they told me that it was possible; but you need (to own) an original XP Prof. OEM CD (which strangely enough may be installed on another computer) and you have to call the M$ hotline to activate it. I think that's horribly gay because I dont have a stupid XP Prof. OEM CD.

Makes me want to say “aarr matey I be plundrin` agayn”

Jetpac · 08-09-2007, 11:50 PM

Im with SizeableSSonic Vista is a great OS. I Cant fault it at the moment, as an end user i have only had one problem and that was with wireless Card drivers (which is the fault of Belkin not MS)

Im running Vista Business x64.

Playing games fine, if not better than i did in XP.
It may not fit the bill quite yet for some people because of driver or program incapabilities, but on the whole thats not really microsofts fault.

Ihmhi · 08-10-2007, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SizeableSSonic

Very soon, Vista will be the standard, whether you like it or not. Get used to it. People said the same thing ab XP- and 98, when that came out. And 95, when that came out. That's the way things work.

Addendum: Until after the first Service Pack comes out.

Seriously, gais, remember the rules of Windows.

DON'T TOUCH THE NEW WINDOWS UNTIL A SERVICE PACK COMES OUT.

I can not wait for Microsoft Surface to come out... "Someone hacked my coffee table and loaded a blown up image of goatse onto it."

Jetpac · 08-10-2007, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ihmhi

Seriously, gais, remember the rules of Windows.

DON'T TOUCH THE NEW WINDOWS UNTIL A SERVICE PACK COMES OUT.

Nah Vista is a good upgrade, Plus i have the bonus of getting the business version free from a friend who has a MSDN account

Dospac · 08-12-2007, 02:44 AM

Been happy with Vista so far, but that's on a laptop I don't game on. Gaming performance generally goes down considerably with each new Windows version released, so that's no surprise really..

Win98 destroyed 2k/XP in 3d performance for a long time..

08-08-2007, 03:28 PM	#1
SomeOldGuy older than dirt Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: just east of the jug handle Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Vista "Performance and Compatiblity" packs released Not currently part of Windows update, from my understanding.... http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...-released.html

08-08-2007, 03:35 PM	#2
SizeableSSonic Joystick Junkie D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: I know where YOU live! Class/Position: Engineer or Sniper Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	NO MORE DRIVER FAILURES FOR ME! HOORAY! __________________ I like chocolate milk.

08-08-2007, 04:32 PM	#5
Innoc Hitman 2 1 Actual Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: "Oscar Mike" Gametype: FPS or RTS (just say NO to MMO) Affiliations: Your Mom Posts Rated Helpful 8 Times	That puzzles me that they refer to it as the "rumored" SP. MS themselves had information on their site about it. Rumor doesn't seem like the right word for it when it comes from them directly. __________________ Mooga on Obama: He can cut taxes. Actually do something useful. Punch Nancy Pelosi in the face. Just to name a few. You eventually run out of other people's money to spend.

08-08-2007, 06:55 PM	#7
SizeableSSonic Joystick Junkie D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: I know where YOU live! Class/Position: Engineer or Sniper Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I just installed them both.... and I can play games without driver failure! __________________ I like chocolate milk.

08-09-2007, 04:44 AM	#14
SizeableSSonic Joystick Junkie D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: I know where YOU live! Class/Position: Engineer or Sniper Gametype: CTF Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I can quote from memory at the very least, a dozen times were people said one should stick with 98. Even if Vista DID suck- it's still gonna be the standard, because that's all people are really going to get, nothing else is packaged with new desktops, so yea, eventually, one will have to upgrade... Well, to be more specific, they won't HAVE to, because most games will probably still support XP, but once their old PC dies, and they have to get a new one... MS probably won't be producing XP too much longer, and Vista is, again, going to be on most new desktops. __________________ I like chocolate milk. Last edited by SizeableSSonic; 08-09-2007 at 03:12 PM.

08-08-2007, 03:41 PM	#3
Deadly Furby Elder Scroll Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cell Block 17 Posts Rated Helpful 13 Times	Microsoft issues emergency fixes for Vista A few hundred megabytes short of a service pack By Andrew Thomas: Wednesday 08 August 2007, 12:52 MICROSOFT HAS ISSUED two updates for Vista, rated 'important', that address performance and reliability problems. The updates have a combined size of 5.7Mb and both require a system restart. They have yet to be made available through Windows Update. Both 32 and 64 bit versions of Vista are affected. The fixes have been floating around in beta guise for a few weeks, but fall well short of being the rumoured Vista SP1 discussed on the sort of forums that discuss such things. Downloading and installing the patches is quick and easy apart from the annoyance of two restarts. No noticeable performance oreliability improvements are immediately apparent on the two machines we tried it on (2 Gig 2.7GHz Core 2 Duo and 768MB 2.4GHz P4), but they were already pretty fast and reliable anyway. Performance problems have cropped up with screen savers, network printers, corrupt AVI files, slow response times and corrupted RAW files with some Canon cameras. More serious problems addressed by the patch include corruption of offline files and machines forgetting their default gateway addresses. Memory management has also been improved, says the company. Reliability improvements cover display drivers, PPP network connections and unexpected restarts. More details here and here

08-08-2007, 03:56 PM	#4
Zydell Ex-king D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Netherlands Affiliations: Knights of the Round Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Yeah and WP to my fucking laptopmanufacturer for not providing support for the ati radeon mobility 9000. I tried playing TFC yesterday (on Vista); I got a stable 10-20fps , not bad for a Centrino 1.6GHz. with 1.5GB of RAM ey? (I just see that they've released an update btw ). I also mailed microsoft today if I can switch vista business oem for xp prof. oem, hope that works

08-08-2007, 06:27 PM	#6
StatisticZ My title is... Custom. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tri-State Area Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I hope Vista is as stable as Windows XP (even tho xp aint exactly stable itself, and I'm hoping for too much from Microsoft) in a few months, I will probably be getting Ultimate for my computer I'm currently building.

08-09-2007, 01:40 AM	#12
StrickNine Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	I don't recall people saying that about xp.

08-09-2007, 01:46 AM	#13
Jiggles Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CowTown Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Yeah, XP's debut was pretty good, by Windows standards anyway.

08-09-2007, 05:03 PM	#16
Zydell Ex-king D&A Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: The Netherlands Affiliations: Knights of the Round Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Fuck Microsoft, I contacted them asking if it was possible to downgrade from Vista Business OEM to XP Prof; and they told me that it was possible; but you need (to own) an original XP Prof. OEM CD (which strangely enough may be installed on another computer) and you have to call the M$ hotline to activate it. I think that's horribly gay because I dont have a stupid XP Prof. OEM CD. Makes me want to say “aarr matey I be plundrin` agayn”

08-09-2007, 11:50 PM	#17
Jetpac E-COOL Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Im with SizeableSSonic Vista is a great OS. I Cant fault it at the moment, as an end user i have only had one problem and that was with wireless Card drivers (which is the fault of Belkin not MS) Im running Vista Business x64. Playing games fine, if not better than i did in XP. It may not fit the bill quite yet for some people because of driver or program incapabilities, but on the whole thats not really microsofts fault.

08-12-2007, 02:44 AM	#20
Dospac Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Been happy with Vista so far, but that's on a laptop I don't game on. Gaming performance generally goes down considerably with each new Windows version released, so that's no surprise really.. Win98 destroyed 2k/XP in 3d performance for a long time..

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