Harassment - Page 4

Credge · 02-12-2008, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tu!

i don't play it...game too slow...praying new patch will actually make unaided bhop have some benifit (atleast)...

For the life of me, I can't understand what you mean. Unaided bhop? What?

Desyphur · 02-12-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Credge

For the life of me, I can't understand what you mean. Unaided bhop? What?

You know, cause he can't conc.

Circuitous · 02-12-2008, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Credge

For the life of me, I can't understand what you mean. Unaided bhop? What?

Bhop from a standstill.

Desyphur · 02-12-2008, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Circuitous

Bhop from a standstill.

How would that work? That...that doesn't seem like it would get you anywhere...

Circuitous · 02-12-2008, 05:50 PM

It can and does, if you know how to take off.

The point is, in FF right now, if you're just bhopping - not using ramps or grenades or explosives - you can never get much speed from it. You're locked at 10% more speed.

In TFC, it was 70% more (although TFC had slightly lower base speeds), and you didn't need anything to get you there except good air control. A good scout could take off from a completely stand still and hit over 500 units per second in two jumps, sometimes one.

Desyphur · 02-12-2008, 06:15 PM

Huh...I guess it's cause I never got bunnyhopping down in TFC <.<

Credge · 02-12-2008, 06:25 PM

Considering you can keep conc speed on most maps up until you get to the flag (in which case you've already conced to get the flag), it's such a non-issue that it's just ridiculous to even state it.

If the base speed is slow, the game is slow.

Dr.Uudge · 02-12-2008, 09:19 PM

the thing is, i don't think bhop was even an issue on other tf games; i dont' remember untf or etf even having bhop; eh...but i haven't played either in a long, long time...

Damascus · 02-12-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AfterShock

:P It'll be up on release day

(and anyone who flames newbs will get banned.)

Also i'm going to encourage people to put a bind in their config pointing to the newb server and explanation of why to play there, so people don't have to write shit during a game when a newb shows up.

Of course, I can still expect that a bunch of pros will come to join the newbie server, looking for people to "own".
I know that's negative, but it'll happen some time or another

*EDIT* topic's getting offtopic. You better watch out.

*resists urges to reply to tu!*

Dr.Satan · 02-12-2008, 09:43 PM

There will be admins and mod's I'm sure...

Circuitous · 02-12-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Uudge

the thing is, i don't think bhop was even an issue on other tf games; i dont' remember untf or etf even having bhop; eh...but i haven't played either in a long, long time...

I don't think the Unreal TFs had it. Every other one has, in some form.

Desyphur · 02-12-2008, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Uudge

the thing is, i don't think bhop was even an issue on other tf games; i dont' remember untf or etf even having bhop; eh...but i haven't played either in a long, long time...

Etf has it. ^_^

tu! · 02-13-2008, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Credge

Considering you can keep conc speed on most maps up until you get to the flag (in which case you've already conced to get the flag), it's such a non-issue that it's just ridiculous to even state it.

If the base speed is slow, the game is slow.

you have no clue what you are talking about.

Desyphur · 02-13-2008, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tu!

you have no clue what you are talking about.

Are you sure it's not you?

tu! · 02-13-2008, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Desyphur

Are you sure it's not you?

yes i'm pretty sure...

if that guys comments don't seem retarded i don't know what does...

look out 0wn3r you got competition!

Everything · 02-13-2008, 03:34 AM

Dude, Credge, you're not gonna' let him say that are ya? ARE YA?!

Credge · 02-13-2008, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tu!

you have no clue what you are talking about.

Base run speed dictates the speed of an FPS. If you've got a bunch of people that run at 20 steps an hour, the game will feel slow. If you've got people that can run at 400 miles and hour, the game will feel fast. It doesn't matter how you try to cut it.

The base run speed of all classes in FF is faster than the base run speeds of their other halves in TFC. Hell, TF2 classes base speeds are faster than those of the classes in TFC. What made TFC wasn't BHop. What made TFC fast were concs.

Conc speed is faster in FF, as is the base run speed. You slide much more in FF than TFC, allowing you to more easily keep your conc speed. Jumping mechanics are easier to further promote this.

The only thing that is slower in FF is BHop speed, which is a non-issue as either:

1. You are on defense and, because of a high base speed, don't need the speed boost of BHopping to get back to position.

2. You are on offense and will, generally, be playing either the medic or scout, both of which have concs.

2a. You will be using the games easier jump feature+how the slipperiness of FF to keep your speed of your HH's.

2b. In between HH's, you will jump, about, 3-4 times before jumping again.

2c. In the event that the map prohibits this streamlined offense (monkey, SD2, congestus), the increased base speed of FF makes up for the games lack of over-the-top run speed.

All of this is funny coming from a guy who doesn't even play the game. To further make your assertion weaker, the next patch increases BHop speed as well as introduces the jump pad, something to help slower offensive players (engineers, demomen, soldiers, pyros, etc.) get across the map swiftly.

Everything you've said is weak and delusional. FF, if anything, is just as fast, if not a little faster, than TFC. If, by chance, it is slower, then it's not by much and your complaints about FF are trivial and silly, as you would also be complaining about TFC as well.

Go troll elsewhere.

Everything · 02-13-2008, 04:43 AM

tu! just got owned by the base speed of Credge's post!

Desyphur · 02-13-2008, 04:53 AM

Man credge...nice.

Also, Kenny, I'm so totally sigging that :P

**mervaka** · 02-13-2008, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny

tu! just got owned by the base speed of Credge's post!

QFT.

02-12-2008, 05:50 PM	#65
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	It can and does, if you know how to take off. The point is, in FF right now, if you're just bhopping - not using ramps or grenades or explosives - you can never get much speed from it. You're locked at 10% more speed. In TFC, it was 70% more (although TFC had slightly lower base speeds), and you didn't need anything to get you there except good air control. A good scout could take off from a completely stand still and hit over 500 units per second in two jumps, sometimes one. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

02-12-2008, 06:15 PM	#66
Desyphur OHH! OHHH NOOO! Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Huh...I guess it's cause I never got bunnyhopping down in TFC <.< __________________ What was left of my sanity implored me not to enter...but that voice was just a whisper now.

02-12-2008, 06:25 PM	#67
Credge FF Loremaster Beta Tester Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 4 Times	Considering you can keep conc speed on most maps up until you get to the flag (in which case you've already conced to get the flag), it's such a non-issue that it's just ridiculous to even state it. If the base speed is slow, the game is slow. __________________ "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'" Ronald Reagan

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02-13-2008, 03:34 AM	#76
Everything This is still alive? Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Naples, FL Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Dude, Credge, you're not gonna' let him say that are ya? ARE YA?! __________________ Steam Profile

02-12-2008, 09:19 PM	#68
Dr.Uudge in-game as Dr.Ainpipe Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	the thing is, i don't think bhop was even an issue on other tf games; i dont' remember untf or etf even having bhop; eh...but i haven't played either in a long, long time...

02-13-2008, 04:43 AM	#78
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02-13-2008, 04:53 AM	#79
Desyphur OHH! OHHH NOOO! Wiki Team Beta Tester Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Man credge...nice. Also, Kenny, I'm so totally sigging that :P __________________ What was left of my sanity implored me not to enter...but that voice was just a whisper now.

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