Clan Rules?

11-05-2007, 09:46 PM

In a mod with such a small player base, why are servers enforcing ridiculous "clan rules" on players?

If there are class restrictions it's one thing to only allow, say, a medic go offense. But if I choose to play a medic on defense because I CAN DO WELL AT IT, why am I kicked?

If upon entering the midfield as the "supposed" heaviest offensive class, a soldier, and a medic flies at me with a medi-pak, why would I get kicked by an admin for "fighting in the midfield?"

If I play sniper and I take out a scout while he's double conc jumping across the map, why do I get banned by an admin for shooting someone on the offense in the middle?

What is the point of a game when 1 out of 3 POSSIBLE servers that have more than 5 people consist of "clan players" who get their jollies by playing a game according to internet playguides? If you want a clan server with ridiculous class rules, then lock your server.

I like the idea of FF and it really is fun. It's a nice addition to the TF line, and since it is so similar to TFC, I can really enjoy it. The new patch has made things even better but why, and how, can people who want to play tactically but not by the same guidelines that somehow magically got ported over without real regard for the new dynamics of the game... well, play?

On many occasions, players other than myself have voiced their disgust with having only one server to choose from that basically ruins any havoc that the game can create. Sure, I must be a noob because I don't take the game seriously.. but "clan rules" on public servers don't make sense.

Dr.Satan · 11-05-2007, 09:58 PM

Since I know that this is going to get locked before it turns into another pub vs clanner or Newb vs clanner debate...I will say this:

If you don't like it play somewhere else...some people like playing by those rules and don't like others who ruin their gameplay. Some don't like it the other way...just play where you like...

11-05-2007, 10:03 PM

The only problem is there are *maybe* 3 servers that have more than 5 people at most times throughout the day. You have a choice between 24/7 dustbowl spamfest, a clan rule server, or a regular pub that's always full. There really isn't anywhere else to play. My main thing is to lock the "clan rule" servers and have a base of people that enjoy that sort of game, and don't get all hissy when I want to play a medic on D. It's not that I don't understand the style of gameplay, I just feel that with such a small player base you have no choice in where to play.

Dr.Satan · 11-05-2007, 10:10 PM

but that's the magic of the game...it's a totaly free mod that can be multi - managed to suit whatever you see fit. I understand what you are saying, but you have to look at it from the other perspective as well. I have a clan and like clan rules, but If every clan server locks their server then I have to play on pubs (which i generally hate) so why be fair to you and not to me?

Just go by the rules that are implemented on the server or obviously you face a ban / kick...

Scuzzy · 11-05-2007, 10:17 PM

Choose a different server, choose a better player base, problem solved. IBTL!

Ihmhi · 11-05-2007, 10:19 PM

Play on {NFO}, SteamFriends.com, or [o-t]'s servers. They don't have clan rules. {NFO} is pretty popular, as is SteamFriends (although they cheat at it).

Dr.Satan · 11-05-2007, 10:24 PM

Suck my Conc! Pub Server - Seattle, WA - 63.208.142.77:27015

^ also a great server that is played on a ton! ^

Skanky Butterpuss · 11-05-2007, 10:35 PM

sorry, it sucks, but its the way of the world. locking this because it has been discussed to death.

11-05-2007, 09:46 PM	#1
Teflon Coated Cutlery Guest Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	Clan Rules? In a mod with such a small player base, why are servers enforcing ridiculous "clan rules" on players? If there are class restrictions it's one thing to only allow, say, a medic go offense. But if I choose to play a medic on defense because I CAN DO WELL AT IT, why am I kicked? If upon entering the midfield as the "supposed" heaviest offensive class, a soldier, and a medic flies at me with a medi-pak, why would I get kicked by an admin for "fighting in the midfield?" If I play sniper and I take out a scout while he's double conc jumping across the map, why do I get banned by an admin for shooting someone on the offense in the middle? What is the point of a game when 1 out of 3 POSSIBLE servers that have more than 5 people consist of "clan players" who get their jollies by playing a game according to internet playguides? If you want a clan server with ridiculous class rules, then lock your server. I like the idea of FF and it really is fun. It's a nice addition to the TF line, and since it is so similar to TFC, I can really enjoy it. The new patch has made things even better but why, and how, can people who want to play tactically but not by the same guidelines that somehow magically got ported over without real regard for the new dynamics of the game... well, play? On many occasions, players other than myself have voiced their disgust with having only one server to choose from that basically ruins any havoc that the game can create. Sure, I must be a noob because I don't take the game seriously.. but "clan rules" on public servers don't make sense.

11-05-2007, 09:58 PM	#2
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	Since I know that this is going to get locked before it turns into another pub vs clanner or Newb vs clanner debate...I will say this: If you don't like it play somewhere else...some people like playing by those rules and don't like others who ruin their gameplay. Some don't like it the other way...just play where you like... __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

11-05-2007, 10:10 PM	#4
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	but that's the magic of the game...it's a totaly free mod that can be multi - managed to suit whatever you see fit. I understand what you are saying, but you have to look at it from the other perspective as well. I have a clan and like clan rules, but If every clan server locks their server then I have to play on pubs (which i generally hate) so why be fair to you and not to me? Just go by the rules that are implemented on the server or obviously you face a ban / kick... __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

11-05-2007, 10:17 PM	#5
Scuzzy The Old Timers Clan D&A Member Retired FF Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Server: 206.217.134.170:27016 Posts Rated Helpful 2 Times	Choose a different server, choose a better player base, problem solved. IBTL! __________________ "Player Quality, not Quantity, is what we strive for." - The LLama Wrangler "A clan is defined by the nature of it's enemies. - The Llama Wrangler

11-05-2007, 10:19 PM	#6
Ihmhi [AE] 0112 Ihmhi SJB Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Newark, NJ, United States Class/Position: A little bit o' everythin' Gametype: Also a little bit o' everythin' Affiliations: [AE] Asseater, SJB Straight Jacket Brigade Posts Rated Helpful 3 Times	Play on {NFO}, SteamFriends.com, or [o-t]'s servers. They don't have clan rules. {NFO} is pretty popular, as is SteamFriends (although they cheat at it). __________________ Support FF: Anime: The Thread: Reloaded The one and only anime thread on these here forums. Select the pistol, and then, select your horse.

11-05-2007, 10:03 PM	#3
Teflon Coated Cutlery Guest Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	The only problem is there are maybe 3 servers that have more than 5 people at most times throughout the day. You have a choice between 24/7 dustbowl spamfest, a clan rule server, or a regular pub that's always full. There really isn't anywhere else to play. My main thing is to lock the "clan rule" servers and have a base of people that enjoy that sort of game, and don't get all hissy when I want to play a medic on D. It's not that I don't understand the style of gameplay, I just feel that with such a small player base you have no choice in where to play.

11-05-2007, 10:24 PM	#7
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	Suck my Conc! Pub Server - Seattle, WA - 63.208.142.77:27015 ^ also a great server that is played on a ton! ^ __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

11-05-2007, 10:35 PM	#8
Skanky Butterpuss Beware the Hammer D&A Member Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Mar 2007 Class/Position: Sabotaging your shit. Affiliations: :}\|, mimic, /KBN/ Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	sorry, it sucks, but its the way of the world. locking this because it has been discussed to death. __________________ Support FF: Etzell: Skanky Etzell: The Wings are fucking fantastic Etzell: They really are Etzell: But even SAYING that makes me want to vomit

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