UGC FF - The good, the bad, the ugly!

Dr.Satan · 06-20-2009, 02:14 AM

Mkay people...seeing as I have been completely off the grid for god knows how long. I wanted to touch base with the competitive community and see what feedback you all have regarding the UGC FF division. From the looks of it I see that most of the admins that took my place couldn't take it and quit (jk...but seriously what happened there?), and I know that the general feeling toward it is probably about what it was when I left, but I know that it can't all be bad...and I know that it can and will work out!! Especially now that I'm back!

So lemme have it guys...what did you like, hate, wanna see happen that did / didn't. What changes to FF do you think are totally being messed up / missed. What is happening with other leagues that you think UGC could benefit from adapting or looking at...etc.

* Be warned this is not an open invitation to be disrespectful and / or a license to flame. Keep it clean and be helpful or I will gladly hand out infractions for doing so. I need practice with this new system anyway

*

but by all means please speak your mind

GeoKill-----> · 06-20-2009, 02:35 AM

Hmm Well we need one that communicates well with clan leaders (sorry infy) and one that is not biased (sorry illo).

We need one that dedicates and shows interest in UGC League for FF. Something we have no had since you left Satan.

That is pretty much it on issues with past Admins

**squeek.** · 06-20-2009, 03:01 AM

From attempting to run a 4v4/2v2 league, I found that the teams don't take an active enough role in leagues to make them successful. I don't know if that's true or not, but it's what I thought.

elwood · 06-20-2009, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeek.

From attempting to run a 4v4/2v2 league, I found that the teams don't take an active enough role in leagues to make them successful. I don't know if that's true or not, but it's what I thought.

Ding! Ding!

You can have the best admin for any league, but if you don't have the active interest within teams to play then you're just shit out of luck.

Also which was the problem at the end stages of TFC shortly before TF2/FF came out. Teams and people just lost interest.

Dr.Satan · 06-20-2009, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elwood

Ding! Ding!

You can have the best admin for any league, but if you don't have the active interest within teams to play then you're just shit out of luck.

well but that's exactly the point of this thread...what can I do or should we (UGC) do to interest the teams to play? I mean as it stands my time is going to be limited. And if it's just gonna be a complete waste of time to even try to keep UGC alive the wtf is the use of me trying? BUT I love FF and I am competitive and want to see an outlet for that so I am willing to give every second I can if that's what it takes to keep the league going. UGC is a great organization and the leadership is 1000% committed to the game, but you can't fix something if you don't know how it's broken.

also <3 infy!!

MonoXideAtWork · 06-21-2009, 12:15 AM

I failed.

!nF3D4L · 06-20-2009, 08:39 PM

Well.. various things happened with me.. but squeek pretty much says it all.. Id tell all the leaders to check the leaders forum and about 2-3 teams would out of the 8 or so. Also running 3 ladders is no party even if it is during the summer. Lack of people showing up never helped. Overall on my half lack of time management and inexperience didnt help. Oh and of course computer crapping out for a good 2 weeks doesnt help at all

teh_rape · 06-21-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr.Satan

From the looks of it I see that most of the admins that took my place couldn't take it and quit (jk...but seriously what happened there?), and I know that the general feeling toward it is probably about what it was when I left, but I know that it can't all be bad...and I know that it can and will work out!! Especially now that I'm back!

First off good to see you again satan

The community is... how can I say this nicely.. not good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeoKill----->

Hmm Well we need one that communicates well with clan leaders (sorry infy) and one that is not biased (sorry illo).

He kicked HIS OWN CLAN out of the league. How can you consider him biased?

Anyway, I never had a problem with UGC admins when I played. the only downfall on their end that I can think of was putting up the schedule late sometimes. Other than that it's the clans that made my interest in UGC slowly but surely die.

RocKwell · 06-21-2009, 09:33 PM

A lot of FF's players just don't play as consistently as TFC's, whether they lose interest or are generally an older crowd and have busier lives. That, and the fact that there are generally more fps selections out there, especially from Valve ( not turning this into a why-ff-dead debate, just for competitive purposes ).

I think league play should wait until a big patch with some more exposure comes along so it can scoop up a few more consistent players, whenever that may be.

mentalERROR · 06-21-2009, 10:02 PM

yep what squeek said. I am currently running http://www.ultimatemulchers.com/ and it was originally intended for just MULCH but then people wanted more and I provided but just not enough interest but I am trying. Come check us out!! Plus with squeeks league and UGC down I figured I could fill the void :P

GeoKill-----> · 06-21-2009, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocKwell

I think league play should wait until a big patch with some more exposure comes along so it can scoop up a few more consistent players, whenever that may be.

Exactly, Maybe once 2.4 or OB comes out then we will get a bunch of new players that hopefully will be interested in league plays.

Dr.Satan · 06-22-2009, 01:09 AM

cool...keep it coming, this stuff definitely helps.

06-20-2009, 02:14 AM	#1
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	UGC FF - The good, the bad, the ugly! Mkay people...seeing as I have been completely off the grid for god knows how long. I wanted to touch base with the competitive community and see what feedback you all have regarding the UGC FF division. From the looks of it I see that most of the admins that took my place couldn't take it and quit (jk...but seriously what happened there?), and I know that the general feeling toward it is probably about what it was when I left, but I know that it can't all be bad...and I know that it can and will work out!! Especially now that I'm back! So lemme have it guys...what did you like, hate, wanna see happen that did / didn't. What changes to FF do you think are totally being messed up / missed. What is happening with other leagues that you think UGC could benefit from adapting or looking at...etc. * Be warned this is not an open invitation to be disrespectful and / or a license to flame. Keep it clean and be helpful or I will gladly hand out infractions for doing so. I need practice with this new system anyway * but by all means please speak your mind __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

06-20-2009, 02:35 AM	#2
GeoKill-----> Community Member Server Owner Beta Tester Forum Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hawthorne, California Class/Position: Soldier/Spy/Scout Gametype: AvD Affiliations: :e0:Eternal Order Leader Posts Rated Helpful 12 Times	Hmm Well we need one that communicates well with clan leaders (sorry infy) and one that is not biased (sorry illo). We need one that dedicates and shows interest in UGC League for FF. Something we have no had since you left Satan. That is pretty much it on issues with past Admins __________________ Fortress-Forever Guides All Your Mapping Needs :e0: Will live on Forever Support FF:

06-20-2009, 03:01 AM	#3
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06-21-2009, 09:33 PM	#9
RocKwell Regular or Menthol? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Central MI Affiliations: :e0: .o` Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	A lot of FF's players just don't play as consistently as TFC's, whether they lose interest or are generally an older crowd and have busier lives. That, and the fact that there are generally more fps selections out there, especially from Valve ( not turning this into a why-ff-dead debate, just for competitive purposes ). I think league play should wait until a big patch with some more exposure comes along so it can scoop up a few more consistent players, whenever that may be. __________________ I'll blow a hole in your face, then go inside and sleep like a baby. Walt Kowalski ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Mulch_faf (WIP) : FF_Sahara_b1 :

06-22-2009, 01:09 AM	#12
Dr.Satan Wiki Team Fortress Forever Staff Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Greeley, CO Class/Position: Med / Solly Gametype: PAYLOAD Affiliations: DET- Posts Rated Helpful 19 Times	cool...keep it coming, this stuff definitely helps. __________________ FF Community Map Pack(s): 1 / 2 (Released) conc_school \| hellion_classic \| ksour_PAYLOAD \| mulch_faf (Beta) alchimy_b1 (Lua) base_payload_2015 (Models) props_trainyard Support FF:

06-21-2009, 12:15 AM	#6
MonoXideAtWork Pub Allstar! Beta Tester Join Date: Aug 2008 Class/Position: under en kvinna Gametype: Capture the Flag Affiliations: Eternal Order, Must be h4x, Mono's happy funtime. Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I failed.

06-21-2009, 10:02 PM	#10
mentalERROR [DGAF] Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts Rated Helpful 1 Times	yep what squeek said. I am currently running http://www.ultimatemulchers.com/ and it was originally intended for just MULCH but then people wanted more and I provided but just not enough interest but I am trying. Come check us out!! Plus with squeeks league and UGC down I figured I could fill the void :P

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