Has the Starcraft GHOST finally surfaced?

o_|404|innoc-tpf- · 05-19-2006, 03:33 PM

I love military technology!

edit: d'oh...ganked the URL!

Lost · 05-19-2006, 05:11 PM

Sweet, that'll be out long before the next Starcraft.

o_cudweiser · 05-19-2006, 05:32 PM

The women's showers will never be safe again.

o_|404|innoc-tpf- · 05-19-2006, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cudweiser

The women's showers will never be safe again.

Less than 20' you're more detectable. So..Hello women's showers = hello Jail...

edit: wonder what happens when this thing takes a bullet? :lame:

o_frenchtoast · 05-19-2006, 06:24 PM

Woooooooooooahh....

Circuitous · 05-19-2006, 08:32 PM

Is there a video on there somewhere or is it all photos?

o_bubbles · 05-19-2006, 10:13 PM

Judging by the shitty website of the creators of that thing and the fact that theyve only got lowquality photos: I'd say its a cheap fake.

o_theres *nothing* here · 05-20-2006, 02:31 AM

I'm skeptical too. But, yanno if it does really exist, why would they tell the whole world?

Lost · 05-20-2006, 04:36 AM

I think its a "wouldn't this be teh bomb if it worked?" kind of thing. Shows of futuristic military gear and weapons shows up on the Military channel from time to time, they had this idea on there before. But it was on the same show as the 1,000,000 rounds/min projectile system the Aussies developed and the M-16 with a mounted imaging system linked to helmet mounted viewscreen, so it may actually have some scientific bearing.

o_cruor · 05-20-2006, 03:44 PM

haha there is no way that that would work the way he's holding it.
I see no indication of him holding a camera, that would transmit the background to the optical screen or whatever this tech is based on.

And if it is a flat screen then even the slightest tilt from the the straight pov of the person you are trying to avoid seeing you, then the effect would be spoiled.

so this would if it's real only work on one person. any other peple standing in another angle from the screen would see an offset of the background.

Circuitous · 05-20-2006, 04:14 PM

Similar stuff

http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp...DIA/xv/oc.html

(lol @ the references section)

o_nezumi · 05-20-2006, 10:52 PM

Cruor, there's (theoretically) ways to project different colored light from the same spot in different directions. This is what you'd need to do to make camo like this work from multiple angles.

The hard part is getting somethng like that to work in a textile-type form.

o_cruor · 05-21-2006, 12:13 AM

Granted there might be a way to achieve this, but I think it's unlikely to happen in our lifetime. It would require some major nano tech to achieve the collection and transmission of optical data in that manor. Especially on a fabric like you said.

But I was primarily refering to this article, in which what he holds makes it highly dubious and most assurably a scam or a ruse.

Circuitous · 05-21-2006, 12:20 AM

Does http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp...DIA/xv/oc.html count as a textile form? If so you guys totally ignored it the last time, if not I reposted it for no reason and am sad.

o_frenchtoast · 05-21-2006, 12:25 AM

I doubt it Cruor. There's gonna be a lot of crazy shit happen in our lifetime that you wouldn't imagine now.

Or, I hope. I'm betting that before I die there'll be commercial flights into space...

o_cruor · 05-21-2006, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Circuitous

Does http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp...DIA/xv/oc.html count as a textile form? If so you guys totally ignored it the last time, if not I reposted it for no reason and am sad.

Circ. We've seen that before and it's cool and all but it's hardly mobile and the way that technology works I don't think it'll ever be.

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Originally Posted by FrenchToast

I doubt it Cruor. There's gonna be a lot of crazy shit happen in our lifetime that you wouldn't imagine now.

Or, I hope. I'm betting that before I die there'll be commercial flights into space...

Sure there are lots of things I can't imagine now that might work later on in my lifetime but this is not one of them. I see no forseeable way of making this work with current or near future technology. But then again I'm referring to complete invisibility, less quality tech might be achievable which renders you somewhat similar to the background at best, but once again would likely fail from multiple angles.

Commercial space flights are a much more forseeable future to me

Especially when NASA gets working on and finalizes their space elevator.
Then space launches won't cost more than the tiniest fraction of what it costs today since you evade the earths gravity alltogether.

Circuitous · 05-21-2006, 12:38 AM

I am sad, then.

o_cruor · 05-21-2006, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Circuitous

I am sad, then.

Don't be I'm sure genetics are the way to go

Some carefully selected genes from chameleons and squids etc. transplanted into human soldiers etc and voila you've got your camoflauged supersoldiers, able to blend with his surroundings. With our severly more advanced brains we'll be able to match the background completely as opposed to a similar pattern the way chameleons and squids pull it off.

But then again that would also fail from multiple angles, ah well back to the drawing board.

P.S. I'm studying for biotechnology... major: "Mad Scientist"

Circuitous · 05-21-2006, 01:03 AM

Yeah but that's not all that handy if it's genetic. The chameleon effect isn't even that good, and it's slow. Plus isn't it mostly reactionary? And I dunno how well it'd work (if at all) with human skin.

o_frenchtoast · 05-21-2006, 01:10 AM

Ah, chameleions are slow, but there are octopussusses that chang colour in like half a second, it's incredible.

05-19-2006, 03:33 PM	#1
o_\|404\|innoc-tpf- Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Midtown Express Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Has the Starcraft GHOST finally surfaced? I love military technology! edit: d'oh...ganked the URL!

05-19-2006, 05:11 PM	#2
Lost Fear teh crowbar. Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Gametype: CTF ftw, yeh Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	Sweet, that'll be out long before the next Starcraft. __________________ Do what you want cuz a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

05-19-2006, 08:32 PM	#6
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Is there a video on there somewhere or is it all photos? __________________ Look at all those dead links.

05-20-2006, 04:36 AM	#9
Lost Fear teh crowbar. Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Oklahoma Gametype: CTF ftw, yeh Posts Rated Helpful 6 Times	I think its a "wouldn't this be teh bomb if it worked?" kind of thing. Shows of futuristic military gear and weapons shows up on the Military channel from time to time, they had this idea on there before. But it was on the same show as the 1,000,000 rounds/min projectile system the Aussies developed and the M-16 with a mounted imaging system linked to helmet mounted viewscreen, so it may actually have some scientific bearing. __________________ Do what you want cuz a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

05-20-2006, 04:14 PM	#11
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Similar stuff http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp...DIA/xv/oc.html (lol @ the references section) __________________ Look at all those dead links.

05-19-2006, 05:32 PM	#3
o_cudweiser Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: LBKTX Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	The women's showers will never be safe again.

05-19-2006, 06:24 PM	#5
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Woooooooooooahh....

05-19-2006, 10:13 PM	#7
o_bubbles Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Judging by the shitty website of the creators of that thing and the fact that theyve only got lowquality photos: I'd say its a cheap fake.

05-20-2006, 02:31 AM	#8
o_theres nothing here Join Date: May 2005 Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I'm skeptical too. But, yanno if it does really exist, why would they tell the whole world?

05-20-2006, 03:44 PM	#10
o_cruor Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	haha there is no way that that would work the way he's holding it. I see no indication of him holding a camera, that would transmit the background to the optical screen or whatever this tech is based on. And if it is a flat screen then even the slightest tilt from the the straight pov of the person you are trying to avoid seeing you, then the effect would be spoiled. so this would if it's real only work on one person. any other peple standing in another angle from the screen would see an offset of the background.

05-20-2006, 10:52 PM	#12
o_nezumi Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Peoples Republic of Harmfull Free Radicals Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Cruor, there's (theoretically) ways to project different colored light from the same spot in different directions. This is what you'd need to do to make camo like this work from multiple angles. The hard part is getting somethng like that to work in a textile-type form.

05-21-2006, 12:13 AM	#13
o_cruor Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Granted there might be a way to achieve this, but I think it's unlikely to happen in our lifetime. It would require some major nano tech to achieve the collection and transmission of optical data in that manor. Especially on a fabric like you said. But I was primarily refering to this article, in which what he holds makes it highly dubious and most assurably a scam or a ruse.

05-21-2006, 12:20 AM	#14
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Does http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp...DIA/xv/oc.html count as a textile form? If so you guys totally ignored it the last time, if not I reposted it for no reason and am sad. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

05-21-2006, 12:25 AM	#15
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	I doubt it Cruor. There's gonna be a lot of crazy shit happen in our lifetime that you wouldn't imagine now. Or, I hope. I'm betting that before I die there'll be commercial flights into space...

05-21-2006, 12:38 AM	#17
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	I am sad, then. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

05-21-2006, 01:03 AM	#19
Circuitous Useless Retired FF Staff Join Date: Jun 2005 Class/Position: D Soldier, O Scout Gametype: AvD Posts Rated Helpful 9 Times	Yeah but that's not all that handy if it's genetic. The chameleon effect isn't even that good, and it's slow. Plus isn't it mostly reactionary? And I dunno how well it'd work (if at all) with human skin. __________________ Look at all those dead links.

05-21-2006, 01:10 AM	#20
o_frenchtoast Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Markham, Ontario, Canada! Posts Rated Helpful 0 Times	Ah, chameleions are slow, but there are octopussusses that chang colour in like half a second, it's incredible.

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