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Raynian 08-07-2010 02:08 AM

Why the HWGuy sucks.
 
http://images.redial.net/ACComparison.jpg

Don't believe me? Load up both games and check it out.

If you're too much of a dumbass to figure it out - FF's HWG requires pinpoint accuracy if a scout is hugging you. It's damn near impossible to hold a bead on someone. At long range, the cone is too large to hit any shots. Regardless of range you're fucked.

WiFiDi 08-07-2010 05:41 AM

i think thats the reletive idea though to make it so its only effective at close and medium range however i agree should prob be fixed even if not as acurate as tfc. :lol:

GenghisTron 08-07-2010 11:05 AM

Conc aiming in FF with an AC is a lot easier than it was in TFC, at least for me.

chilledsanity 08-07-2010 08:00 PM

It's even more than that. I'm not sure if each individual shot does more or less damage, but regardless, TFC's AC acted more like a rapid-fire continuous shotgun. Each "round" would spatter shots in a random array at the enemy, allowing great covering and stopping power. FF's is more like a machinegun, so you have more spread AND less coverage if you follow me.

EDIT:

I made a quick picture to illustrate:

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6728/39204466.png

NeonLight 08-07-2010 09:47 PM

thats a nice target chilled :D

Bridget 08-07-2010 09:57 PM

Sure is getting scientific 'round 'ere.

Iggy 08-07-2010 11:08 PM

Looks like boobies with acne. :lol:

On topic- I see what you mean, and yeah, something should be done about it.

angrypyro 08-08-2010 05:04 AM

Aren't you supposed to switch to the super shotgun if the scout is hugging you?

Bridget 08-08-2010 05:07 AM

No. It's a fucking mini-gun. It's supposed to have something called bullet spread that makes it deadly at close range. It's counter-intuitive and stupid having to switch to your shotgun at close range. What next? Forced to use the nailgun at long range instead of the sniper rifle?

hlstriker 08-08-2010 06:34 AM

It was hypno-acne-monster in disguise!

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3...cnemonster.gif

Elmo 08-08-2010 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hlstriker (Post 474236)
It was hypno-acne-monster in disguise!

Ahahahaa!

RnZ 08-08-2010 10:03 AM

haha n1

AfterShock 08-08-2010 11:01 AM

Actually, you're wrong.

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7763/ffaccone.png

Tracers and decals are also not always shown for performance reasons.

Also, the bullet spread is normalised towards the center of the cone, rather than linearly randomised across it, so just because you see the odd bullet missing wildly, that doesnt mean most bullets are.

treateD 08-08-2010 11:12 AM

LOL

Carrots 08-08-2010 03:40 PM

i myself like the ff heavy much more. idk why, but its just more fun to play in this game

treateD 08-08-2010 04:15 PM

Aiming with or without get conced is pretty much easier than TFC,however TFC hw was able to slow down concers and other stuff...

JackBauer 08-08-2010 04:19 PM

is it save to say the HWG in tfc is stronger?

treateD 08-08-2010 04:22 PM

i say it requires more aiming skill

zE 08-08-2010 06:18 PM

I think that due to the slower pace of tfc Hw felt stronger, but in ff its 10 times easier to aim while conced.

chilledsanity 08-08-2010 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackBauer (Post 474270)
is it save to say the HWG in tfc is stronger?

Easily. This discussion is making no mention of damage, which is certainly higher in TFC.


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